You do not need to support everything the DNC does, but you do need to do what you can to avoid the GOP coming into the level of power that they currently have. It's really that simple.

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Meb,

Are you saying that fly didn't try to shame Bernie Bros into supporting Hillary and that Clark thought Bernie had 0 shot so you have to support Hillary?

drag him

"First pardon" and I'll say Jared Kushner but Flynn would obviously be a solid pick.
"Last pardon" I'll say Ivanka, with no charges filed, but Trump trying to pardon himself would also be a frontrunner.

Again, I view your 2+2 persona that I see regularly and pretends like everyone really wanted Hillary to be the D candidate and focuses on the D primary as suppressing the revolution. Maybe its outweighed by your work outside this thread and I believe you if you say so. So since you asked for suggestions earlier, here is another idea instead of contributing nothing to this thread other than "lolHillary, vote better next time," say "hey this 2+2 circlejerk isn't moving the needle, why don't you guys do this/join me in doing this instead."

I don't remember the exact history of their posts but I doubt that they held these views prior to it being obvious Bernie lost.

Your views just don't make sense. Bernie doesn't even hold this level of hard feelings, and he's actually working on a productive way forward unlike you. If you're really such a Bernie follower, I suggest you follow his lead right now.

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Also how about that despicable Bernie Sanders trying to get the Bernie Bros to vote for Hillary.

Is your 'method' just that you voted for and supported Bernie Sanders? lol

Literally everyone I know voted for Bernie then for Hillary. Sorry you're mad and couldn't make the same rational decision everyone else did

no he provided 2 candidates. bernie and lol ron paul. you know, the republican from texas who circulated racist and homophobic newsletters throughout the 80s and early 90s.

nope. pretty sure you cant find a single post of mine supporting hillary over bernie. bc I didnt care.

all that I care about is keeping the evil republicans out of office. something that you do not fully support.

Well it turns out you should have

Edit: ESPECIALLY given how much you seem to care about the less fortunate among us

OK, I think we've all had enough of the Thayer show. Hoya seems to and I have. So it's put up or shut up time. You've called out specific posters and then offered to dig up quotes. So I'm calling you on it. If you want to discuss current events in this thread like everyone else, fine. But if you want to continue discussing Bernie vs Hillary and whether we're all a bunch of DNC shills, you need to do your work first and dig up those quotes. And if I think you're being disingenuous in your use of quotes, you're not allowed to bring the subject up anymore itt, and if you do you'll start eating bans.

Now to help you in your quest, here's what some general guidelines of what is and isn't disingenuous. For example, saying early in the primaries that you should vote for Hillary over Bernie because Bernie is a socialist and people will never vote for a socialist in the general election is something that I would consider a point in your favor. Saying that Bernie should concede before the convention because all trying to contest it would do is divide the Democrats when they should be getting behind their presumptive nominee and getting ready to take on Trump is not. Anything in between will be up to my judgement.

Anyways, ball's in your court.

Why are people still talking about Thayer?

Lettuce analyze the downfall of America

ya youre proly right. I had other stuff going on in my life then tho.

its just weird that he would make that claim in his post when I cant remember weighing on hillary vs bernie at all.

Dudd,

Seems like best case scenario is I annoy this thread with years old terribly inaccurate declarations?


Victor,

I guess I'll never understand why "I don't care who wins as long as it's not x" is an example of a great noble good person and "I care who wins, I want it to be y or z" is a sign of a despicable heartless person

I mean, probably, but I figured I'd give you one last chance to do something to back up your rambling nonsense before I exiled you from this thread. Remember, this was your idea. It probably won't end well for you, but I'd like to see you try

Because this is a false dichotomy, and you're either too stupid to understand that or are purposely trying to obfuscate the discussion.

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Tell Victor about false dichotomies? And how his position led to Trump

Yeah, I'm not following whatever point you're trying to make without reference there.

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People who didn't care who the Democratic Nominee was are largely responsible for president Trump

And it's a lot easier to influence good intellectual people into supporting good people than to hope idiots stop being idiots


Criticizing people who harp on the DNC to do better when they are most capable of change is a bad, unproductive idea? Why? But okay just keep yelling at people for being idiots, your message is clearly getting through.

All right Thayer, clearly you just want to keep beating the same drum you've been beating for months. We know it, we get it, all it does is disrupt this thread. I'm sorry that you'll never get your perfect amalgamation of Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders because it's completely nonsensical, but this thread is better without you. Consider yourself exiled from this thread under penalty of a temp ban.

I hope Trump being awful is a lesson to all of you who said we should avoid Trump

The biggest sign yet that Trump might actually get ****ed here is Pence's people floated a bunch of stories that he didn't have anything to do with Flynn as part of the transition team.

The interesting thing there is what happens when Trump figures out WHY Pence is having his people go to NBC and say this:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/poli...t-loop-n761916

Because the way I read that is Pence trying to tell Congressional Rs that impeachment can be a clean cauterizing burn of the Russia/Turkey stuff and then they can get on with the tax cuts.

Here's the thing. Bernie was a ****ty candidate because a lot fewer people liked him than liked Hillary. He was also ****tier because he would have been a worse president than Hillary. Another reason he was terrible was because nothing about his candidacy was reasonable from a general election perspective. Hope this helps.