For the $100 challenge pool, how are we treating abram/mike? I thought the consensus was they replace the team that leaves, and since they are guy/guy I assume that is tony/shane?

Do both candice and roylee get -25 for leaving an episode not through dome? As well as tony and shane for that matter.

Lol Aneesa trying to pull off a Roylee.

Tough question. It seems unfair to assign them to team tony because team abram is guy/guy too instead of giving them to team roylee. If Candice and roylee get -25 then tony and Shane should get -25 too.

They ****ed up the trivia so bad, half the fun of it is forcing them to answer while dangling over the water. It's not nearly as much fun when someone else falls in the water if you get the answer wrong.

Also, possible spoiler in the description for the episode on mtv.com:

Tonly tweeted that he had a ruptured spleen

He said that on the after show as well and even showed a scar he said was from the surgery.

Which reminds me that earlier ITT I said he is being a drama queen and he's going to the hospital for attention. I was wrong and I apologize to all the tony fans (I consider myself a tony fan) out there.

Tony was great in ep 1 and thought he would be a great personaility for the season, sucks that he had to leave. I may be alone but i thought Shane was a dark horse to be a great addition to the cast aswell.

Yeah I thought Tony and Shane were pretty great by Rookie/Guest standards.

I have both Tony and Shane/Candice and Roylee so it doesn't really matter since I get both replacement teams.

Ya just noticed that. The amount of points is pretty important though.

I think the -25 is unlucky since neither team wanted to leave.

anybody who watched the season knows that Tony and Bruno are gonna be two elite challenge prospects, bunim will definitely get him back on.

and apparently madison is pregnant with tony's child...i fear so much for the future of that baby

Saw Bruno in action on youtube. Doubt that guy can pass the psych evaluation. Especially if MTV wants to waive HIPPA

This is a lame nit, but it annoys me frequently in my professional life (& when they had it wrong at the dentist).

It's HIPAA. Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act.

Also annoys me when we request people sign HIPAA releases & they object on the grounds that it would violate HIPPA to do so...

Both those teams clearly get a -25 for leaving through means other than a dome/pit. Bluff gets the replacement.

Yeah I think CDL is correct

Bluff had both Tony and Leroy? That's lucky for us to avoid controversy over who gets Abram.

There was a small error in my "Survival" (+5) formula(it inflated the scores of people already sent home, as they were still getting +5), it should be correct now with a temporary fix.

where is the scoring system? it seems like the score differentials for some of these people are higher than i would have thought.

I am fine with Eltbus and Custer being the jury and judge for any issues that arise, CHALLENGE is too fluid to have rules for everything that comes up and those two are probably the best equipped to make rulings.

Here is the scoring I am doing.

And since its teams right now, its funny because you will always have half of your remaining players lose the challenge and half win the challenge. So everyone with 2 teams left gains points at the same rate, with the only change being if you have someone win a dome. Losing a team is basically a death sentence.

So basically if you look at a single pair, lets say Bananas, and Vince. Every episode they survive, you will have one challenge win(+25), one challenge loss(-5), and they both get +5 for surviving, assuming they dont go to the dome, as a team you will gain 30 points, every ep this happens. The challenges have become effectively meaningless.

Its why cara is doing the best, she won one of the 2 person challenges, and both of the team(the only other team to win when it was 2 person teams was cohutta and jill and they are gone).

Things will get funky(read: boring i think) if they stay like this. Basically you are rooting for never seeing a dome unless they get an easy win which helps obviously.

The finals scoring could have swings though, but basically if you dont have someone make the finals, you'll lose(I think).

Or if they split the teams back up somehow, or move to individual it could spice things up.

One thing I think I may have brought up earlier, was I gave challenge last, in the second ep(the bug eating) to jenna/brianna because TJ said they didnt eat anything. However it was a guys elim, so cohutta/jill techincally had the lowest finish for a team with a guy and were sent straight to dome.

Which team should get the -5(wont be a huge difference), for finishing last in ep 2?

Oops wrong thread.

I think if it mattered, the Tony team should have gotten Abe, but obviously moot now.

Jenna/Brianna deserve the -5 for losing the challenge.

Fraaaaaaank engaged