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04-18-2021 , 12:23 AM
isnt bieber above this?

guess nothing surprises me anymore
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04-18-2021 , 12:26 AM
Why is he singing love songs? Doesn't he have some fight songs or something more hardcore?
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04-18-2021 , 12:31 AM
im streaming that **** for free and i want a refund

what an awful event
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04-18-2021 , 12:46 AM
Snoop came up.
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04-18-2021 , 12:49 AM
Lol Snoop winning 2 million

This is the most absurd thing ever
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04-18-2021 , 12:49 AM
Snoop bragging about winning a bet that was never made.
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04-18-2021 , 12:53 AM
my god, the people behind that production should be embarassed

why pad it to 4 hours of runtime with music acts nobody cares about? kept checking in, nothing happening, coming back 20 minutes later, still nothing, etc etc

the music acts i did briefly catch, both those women were not even trying to pretend to make it look like they were actually singing

nonstop crude humor, rampant drug usage, jfc what an embarassment

was askren pulled early? don't watch much boxing but was surprised they called it
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04-18-2021 , 12:57 AM
The replay showed he got hit pretty good. I'm surprised they didn't call it a draw like the Tyson fight though.

The swearing and drug use is 99% of the appeal.
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04-18-2021 , 01:24 AM
Lol@thinking Askren was going to beat anybody in any form of striking.

Jake Paul should 100% fight Dillon Danis and ko another bum for easy money and basically continue fighting mma grapplers + celebrities.
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04-18-2021 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Snoop bragging about winning a bet that was never made.
If he didn't get greedy and accepted the $1million offer he would be $1 million richer today.
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04-18-2021 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Lol@thinking Askren was going to beat anybody in any form of striking.

Jake Paul should 100% fight Dillon Danis and ko another bum for easy money and basically continue fighting mma grapplers + celebrities.
I'm curious as to how many buys this event did. If it did huge then he can just jump the line and box McGregor next. If it didn't do that big of buys then he can box another bum next. Danis's stardom seems beneath Paul at this point but it would setup the Conor fight.
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04-18-2021 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I'm curious as to how many buys this event did. If it did huge then he can just jump the line and box McGregor next. If it didn't do that big of buys then he can box another bum next. Danis's stardom seems beneath Paul at this point but it would setup the Conor fight.
0% chance Mcgregor takes this fight. Mcgregor is a 170lb man who can make $20+ million everytime he fights mma & he's going to fight a 200lb youtube celebrity who potentially could ko him and tarnish his entire legacy for probably the same if not slightly higher payday that he could get in the UFC? Not happening.

Nate or Nick Diaz on the other hand should take the fight.
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04-18-2021 , 02:38 AM
It would have to be a much bigger payday for it to happen. So yeah, if this thing didn't do big buys then Paul will need to continue to build himself to get to that point.

I don't think a loss would tarnish Conor at all. Conor is more likely to hurt his brand if he continues to lose in the UFC than if he were to lose another boxing match.

And, losses in general often just setup more huge paydays for Conor... ie Conor vs Poirier will do huge #s, Conor vs Nate 2 did huge, Conor vs Khabib 2 would have sold huge. In other words, I don't think the outcome of a single fight makes or breaks Conor. He has lots of losses. I think what would severely diminish him as a draw is if he had a string of consecutive losses.

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04-18-2021 , 08:58 AM
I think the opposite. Mcgregor's star is fading. He is just gonna keep losing in the UFC. If signed up for the fight it would be huge and honestly I bet a lot of people would watch. They would probably get a good amount of buys. He will keep losing to Dustin. If he does diaz round 3 or khabib 2 he will lose those as well.

If he loses to jake paul who cares he has like what couple hundred million now?
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04-18-2021 , 10:32 AM
he wont lose to jake paul lol.
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04-18-2021 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofcool
he wont lose to jake paul lol.
yeah, i bet on askren cause professional fighter at + odds vs youtube guy seemed like a decent line

clearly should have paid more attention to rumors he didn't train and just wanted his paycheck which was the same regardless of win or loss vs someone who'd be training non stop cause everything is on the line for him

he pretty much said in post fight interview he didn't care about the result and got paid so his family is now taken care of

i think if we started this over again but askren only got paid for a win we'd have a different result
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04-18-2021 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
yeah, i bet on askren cause professional fighter at + odds vs youtube guy seemed like a decent line

clearly should have paid more attention to rumors he didn't train and just wanted his paycheck which was the same regardless of win or loss vs someone who'd be training non stop cause everything is on the line for him

he pretty much said in post fight interview he didn't care about the result and got paid so his family is now taken care of

i think if we started this over again but askren only got paid for a win we'd have a different result
Terrible take which it seems like you are making because you made an absolutely terrible bet. I viewed this as one of the most lopsidedly wrong lines I've ever seen.

I haven't heard that Askren didn't train for this and I'm highly skeptical that he didn't train for this. At the end of the day Ben Askren is a high level competitor and he probably worked his ass off for this. The result we saw is exactly what everyone should have expected from a Ben Askren that worked his ass off though.

Ben Askren has probably the worst striking in UFC history. I'm not talking about worst among top fighters, or worst among known fighters. I'm talking about worst among all fighters. This is why he was handpicked for this fight. His striking is worse than Royce Gracie's, worse than Ronda Rousey's. Hell from a technical standpoint it's probably worse than CM Punk's, who I consider the worst UFC fighter of all time, and who btw was a teammate of Askren's which just shows that fight camp isn't afraid to take these freakshow ass-whoopings.

BTW, you could have just paid attention to my posts which said he was doing this for his family:

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I don't think he gets any of the PPV buys either. I also don't think he gets a win bonus. $500k is plenty to make it worth it for Askren. He's doing this for his family, plain and simple. My point regarding Burroughs was simply that Askren doesn't have an ego in regards to things like this. He's fully happy to give it his all and take a loss.

Of course Paul's boxing isn't comparable to Burroughs wrestling but neither is Askren's boxing comparable to Askren's wrestling. I fully expect to see a wide discrepancy in skill between Paul and Askren. Askren will have to make it a very ugly match to be competitive and I'm very skeptical he can do that.
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04-18-2021 , 02:29 PM
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I think the opposite. Mcgregor's star is fading. He is just gonna keep losing in the UFC. If signed up for the fight it would be huge and honestly I bet a lot of people would watch. They would probably get a good amount of buys. He will keep losing to Dustin. If he does diaz round 3 or khabib 2 he will lose those as well.

If he loses to jake paul who cares he has like what couple hundred million now?
I favor McGregor vs Poirier slightly but I could see it going either way. Predicting McGregor would lose to Diaz is quite the take though. I would expect Diaz to be a sizeable dog in that one. You're absolutely right about McGregor losing to Paul.

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he wont lose to jake paul lol.
I don't know why he couldn't.
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04-18-2021 , 02:33 PM
If Paul chooses Nate for his next fight would be a mistake. Conor hit nate square in his prime and it didn't stun him. His chin is crazy. I guess the next in line will probably be dillon danis. Is he a good striker?

Imagine the gifs viral potential if conor knocks out Paul tho. Really think he should just take the fight instead of getting leg kicked to death by dustin.
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04-18-2021 , 02:38 PM
Hard to argue it's a terrible take when line opened at +170 and closed at +113
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04-18-2021 , 02:52 PM
relyng on steam for this novelty fight to justify your opinon is wrong though

Paul beats him 95/100 or something
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04-18-2021 , 04:24 PM
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If Paul chooses Nate for his next fight would be a mistake. Conor hit nate square in his prime and it didn't stun him. His chin is crazy. I guess the next in line will probably be dillon danis. Is he a good striker?

Imagine the gifs viral potential if conor knocks out Paul tho. Really think he should just take the fight instead of getting leg kicked to death by dustin.
Dillon Danis probably threw more strikes at Khabib than he threw standing in his 2 MMA fights. He fights with a karate stance just like Conor. His punches are going to be a lot crisper and more technical than Askren's. I doubt he has much power though. Overall his standup is pretty unknown. He is a very high level ground fighter. He's similar in size to Askren, slightly taller but the same reach.

Conor and Nate are both under contract with the UFC and their involvement in this fight in the near future would require the UFC to be involved too (ala Mayweather vs McGregor).
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04-18-2021 , 04:36 PM
The odds got more out of wack after Askren face palmed Paul and then showed no effect from Paul smacking him on his side. Then, Dana added fuel to the fire by speaking out of his ass saying he would bet $1 million on Askren which is really just the most ridiculous thing anyone that understands boxing could ever say.

Dana should have kept his mouth shut and tried to distance himself from this spectacle but on the flip side Dana speaking up like this gives promise to a future matchup between Paul and a UFC fighter.
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04-18-2021 , 06:04 PM
1.3 million PPV Buys last night. If true, those are McGregor type #s right there and he was boxing a relative nobody.

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04-19-2021 , 02:13 AM
His weight class would be light HW? So what would the worst light HW active right now have vs him?
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