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11-20-2009, 07:49 PM
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
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Originally Posted by kevin21
Mayweather 4/7 Draw 25/1 Pac 5/4
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Wow, I'm thinking these are generous odds for someone betting Pacman. I expected Mayweather to be the underdog.
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11-20-2009, 07:50 PM
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#137
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
There is about zero chance PBF will open as the underdog.
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11-20-2009, 07:59 PM
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#138
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
Mayweather an underdog? I expected Pac to be around 2/1 with Mayweather at 1/3
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11-20-2009, 08:07 PM
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Good Ol' Canadian Boy
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
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Originally Posted by MEbenhoe
There is about zero chance PBF will open as the underdog.
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+1
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11-20-2009, 08:36 PM
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
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Originally Posted by Wrane
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QFKanye
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11-20-2009, 08:43 PM
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sp...-70539277.html
Some sportsbook opened the line at Pacquiao -160 and several "pros" bet $20k each on Mayweather (presumably at +140). I would set the line at Pac -120 Floyd +100.
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11-20-2009, 08:48 PM
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old hand
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
what is station casinos?
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11-20-2009, 09:25 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
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Originally Posted by ProfessorPain
they get a percent.
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Sure, but how big of a percent? Like, 20 percent each, 30 percent, what?
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11-20-2009, 09:28 PM
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
Pure guess: 80%.
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11-21-2009, 12:50 PM
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be water my friend
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
If this fight gets made, it has all the things needed to make it a mega-fight of our time. To make it a mega-fight of not only our time, but potentially of the century.
This may sound like hyperbole at first glance, but it really isn`t. Bert Sugar agrees with the idea, and he's seen them all.
If you consider how many times in the history of this sport, that 2 fighters of such exceptional ability met, that when P4P 1 and 2 met, and given the mass appeal they both have....
Pacquiao has his growing allegiance of fans, those of the Phillipiness he has gathered and had, those of the asian markets that are awakening to him, and those elsewhere who simply like who he is, the humble and modest man from the most humble of beginnings. An amazing talent, and exciting to watch. Living a dream we all dare to who step through the ropes, but so very few ever realize. It is the type of thing legends are made of.
And then there is Mayweather. Another talent for the ages. But in seemingly polar opposites in nature to his opponent in every way. Where Pac is modest, Mayweather is brazen, bold and outspoken. Flashing his money, or losing it, but making news and is a huge demand in the urban market and the hip hop market. He has marketed himself well as a semi-villian. Or maybe that is just who he is. But whoever/whatever he is, he is an amazingly gifted fighter, lightning fast with some of the best defence ever seen in the sport.
This fight really does need to happen, and it will. You'll see lots of posturing going on from Arum, and from the Mayweather camps in negotiations, in fact it is already going on....talk of %'s, of taking other fights if it doesn't work out, who needs who etc. But it will get made. It has to.
Boxing is so very far from dead that people thought, and I've been trying to say this to some for the last little while, on here and other boards. It is right in the middle of a big resurgance after a lull, and it is coming back stronger then it ever was. The numbers will speak for themselves when all is said and done with this fight. I have little doubt it will eclipse the PPV records set by Delahoya. These fighters are far better and people are starting to come around again to realize great boxing does not need to be the heavyweights of past to be fun to watch. Great boxing is wherever it is in weight, when the right people make their way to its pinnacle in ability and marketability.
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11-21-2009, 04:51 PM
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Good Ol' Canadian Boy
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
In terms of global appeal, no doubt, it's unprecedented.
In terms of larger-than-life personalities coming together for a fight...it's been a while.
In terms of #1 and #2 P4P coming together, arguably the first time since Whitaker-Chavez in 1993, as alluded to in OP.
And since this is the biggest fight of the decade ainec, I'd have to agree it's the biggest fight of the century too, lol.
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11-22-2009, 10:19 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
Roach on Mayweather in July 23-24 Interview
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The key to beating Mayweather is literally beat him up. You take what you can get. He is elusive but he can’t move his body. He is very quick with head movement. You break his body down, he has bad hands, bad ribs, bad knee and he’s had rotator cuff surgery. This is not a guess it’s the facts, period.
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Mayweather relies on his elusive defense as a platform from which to work a meticulous offense consisting of quick bursts combined with exploitive counterpunches. His defense has never had to withstand the kind of relentless innovative all angles power attack which Pacquiao will launch. Not only is Pacquiao brilliant finding ad hoc openings in the ring, he is a good student outside the ring. Unlike De La Hoya, Pacquiao will bring the tools of speed, power, stamina, and execution to turn the keys Roach hands him in training camp for unlocking the Mayweather defense.
Mayweather will get in his share of punches early but with no more power nor effectiveness than Coto did. As the fight wears on and Pacquiao wears down his defense, the sparcity of Mayweather's offense will be exposed for the weakness it is. Mayweather is constitutionally incapable of launching the kind of lightning counterpunch-all out counter offensive which proved so troublesome for Pacquiao when he fought Marquez at lightweight.
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11-24-2009, 06:15 PM
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Good Ol' Canadian Boy
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
Epic ****ing bump.
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11-24-2009, 08:54 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)
Can't believe the hype is already building now.
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