For a few seconds there it was looking like it might turn into Dada v Kimbo Slice

atmosphere was absolutely incredible last night, i managed to get tickets a few rows back from the floor.

after 6th it looked like joshua had nothing left in the tank, but it sure does help having 90,000 people screaming his name throughout 7-11th rounds.

I think Ive never seen a 9-9 round in my life.

boxing definitely isn't dead in england that is for sure. i give a lot of brit fighters crap because of the horrific homer announcers but at least it is covered in the mainstream media and has way more casual or better fans than america where no one really gives a **** except for various minority groups


in america...eh

Boxing is much bigger in the UK than in the US. It has become a fringe sport in many part of the worlds.
In Chile there is something weird going on with boxing. Pacquiao vs Mayweather had 27 rating points while Juventus ( with Vidal playing) vs Barcelona CL final only had 18. But for some reason it has no coverage at all. I think it may have something to do with the fact that boxing is a sport that only the lower social classes like( in Chile).

EDIT: Sometimes I put my tin foil hat on and suspect that other sports have a strong lobby against boxing. For instance Tennis which is the second most popular sport here.

TBF, pretty much every sport in America is going in the niche direction, besides the NFL.

Just way more entertainment options now than in the past.

I do think Wilder/AJ would get some hype, but probably couldn't do more than 150k PPV's if Ward/Kovalev only did 100k. Maybe would just be on HBO.

Just watched the replay. Damn what a fight. I'm stoked for the heavyweights for the first time since the Tyson era. Yeah I'm a pretty casual fan. But man back in the 80s boxing was king. I bought HBO for a month as a broke-ass college student just to watch the Buster Douglass fight. Best money I ever spent.

The Mayweather/Pacquiao fight brought back a lot of nostalgia, but the actual fight sucked the wind right out of that. This fight has energized me for boxing again.

I guess I was kind of into the Foreman comeback era. But still we all knew it was a joke. Reminds me of the greatest line ever uttered on ESPN: "And George Foreman continues with his bang the bum slowly tour."

What a classy winner's speech. I love this guy. Klitschko looks like he wants to crawl into a hole.

Damn those judges really wanted to give to to Klitschko.

AJ definitely won me over. Huge fan of his now.

Klitschko is miserable because he knows that he won't win a rematch. He used an optimal strategy that played to his advantages over AJ (conserve energy early, drag a hopefully gassed AJ into the late rounds where he's never been and beat them there) and still lost. If he fights again, it's because he wants one more big paycheck.

I doubt Klits needs/wants cash

Not much call for a rematch over here, most of Britain want the Fury match now.

Never met a person who doesn't want money.

Anyway he's married to Hayden Panitierri (sp?) and is a national hero in Ukraine. Perhaps you're right and it isn't a motive. But if money isn't a motivator, then he'll have to delude himself into thinking he can win a rematch.

What I meant was that he has probably already made in excess of $150m thru boxing and sponsorship over the last 20 years so another $10m thru a rematch won't be a factor. I think he wants to go out on a win and is desperate for it, obsessed as he says

Joshua Wlad did over 1.5m PPV buys!

Wooaa, sick.

I bought it too, first PPV I got in years. Was totally worth it even though undercard was average. Actually Quigg fight was really good.

That's £31m Revenue from the PPV

This fs1 main event is really good for a Tuesday with two relatively legitimate fighters who have only lost to really good fighters

Redkach v Mendez

Ref has completely ****ed Ivan with bogus point taken and a missed clear knockdown

Needs a knockdown now prob

Floyd Manny was a massive worldwide event, that's not surprising. Biggest boxing event ever by far.

I'd love to see that sacrifice, a tip top previous shape Fury might be somewhat competitive, but I doubt it. And he's too far gone now, you don't go to 350, deal with mental issues, failed drug tests, etc. then come back from that into an even larger spotlight and dominate (he wasn't dominating pre breakdown either). It's over for him at the top, he luckboxed to get there briefly before.

Rematch with Wlad makes sense though, Wlad looked like the #2 best HW and the only person close to Joshua last week. Wilder maybe is in the convo and Ortiz is somewhere in the ballpark, but there's just so much money in a rematch.

Wlad could absolutely win. He didn't conserve energy early, he was moving around all fight like he's never moved, that's why he was so gassed late. I think if he fights the same kind of fight and picks his spots, particularly on counters and when Joshua is a little winded, he can pick up the win. It's not like Joshua is an iron chin (doesn't exist at HW), if Wlad has enough in the tank and hurts him he could take him out. Joshua was stunned badly vs Wlad, same vs Whyte, neither had enough in the tank to capitalize.

Joshua still a solid favorite but Wlad is 20% or more in a rematch, it's worthwhile to take the 10-15 mil (or more) and do it, I doubt after taxes he has anywhere near 100m in the bank. Legacy and such too. Win and you get 15-20+ mil for a trilogy, that's pretty decent.

I don't see Wlad's chances of winning as any higher than in the previous fight. If anything, they might be lower. He fought the optimal fight for his age and style: conserve energy and minimize the damage early, then take over in the late rounds when AJ's winded using guile and ring experience advantage over him. He underestimated AJ's power and suffered way more damage than he expected early in the fight. Those body shots he took from AJ also had their toll.

AJ learned a lot from that fight. He got cocky and excited when he knocked down Wlad and blew through all of his energy trying to finish him. He also didn't pace himself particularly well aside from that and probably would have lost without that second wind. He'll learn how to pace himself and act more deliberately when the time comes.

AJ's on the rise. Wlad's on the decline. Doesn't mean that Wlad can't compete. It's just that he can't compete against AJ.

AJ came out with huge aggression in the 5th and 11th and as soon as he did that Wlad had no answer. He couldn't deal with the change in gears. If there was a rematch AJ should go aggro early and stop him in the first 6.

How do we feel about Wlad's chances vs Wilder or Parker? I think he has a legit shot at beating both.

I don't think he should retire with the condition he is in.

I haven't seen Parker yet. So, I can't comment on him. Plus, hasn't he been caught juicing a couple of times?

Wilder is a less refined version of AJ. He has AJ's power but his offense is very one-dimensional and his defense leaves a lot to be desired. He's way more exploitable than AJ and should be an easy fight for Wlad so long as can avoid Wilder's right hand and land his own. Wilder's chin is more suspect (iirc Molina hurt him in their fight).

What about King Kong? He doesn't seem like an exciting fighter (Cuban fighters seem to be super-boring). I mean his fight against Malik Scott was absolutely embarrassing. But he is unbeaten and has his share of KOs.

You confusing him with Povetkin? Never heard of Parker using banned drugs


Ortiz is solid as a rock. He even looks like he is made from granite. Think him vs AJ, Wilder or Parker is a good match up.

I blame Scott almost completely for that farce. He ran for 12 rounds. Guy is a disgrace and a joke after all his chat

i feel like any of AJ, klit, wilder, ortiz can prob beat each other on a given day that is just the nature of being a heavyweight


not a huge fan of parker but i only saw him v ruiz

just watched the canelo jcc jr face off on hbo


prob the best one i have ever seen. i feel like canelo kind of sonned him but it was tense and jcc prob shoulda just spoke spanish instead of english. canelo seemed like an ******* but it is boxing can't blame him for that i wish chavez would have pushed back more but honestly he doesn't really have much of an argument for being a better fighter than canelo so what can he really say. i'm rooting hard for jcc jr but damn i think canelo is gonna win an easy fight for him. felt kind of bad for jr in this. i hate that these things still get me hyped for the fight lol. i'm not actually gonna pay for this ****show but i'll watch

chavez is gonna be completely washed at this weight if the training camp pictures are any indication. i find him endearing but he is just not good or seemingly dedicated. this is his last shot at redemption in the eyes of mexicans and other fight fans methinks. he doesn't ahve to win but he needs to go out on his shield