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04-25-2016 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RT
Max: "Why did you drop your hands and let him hit you"
GGG: "Max, today...I give chance."

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I love when GGG and Max talk. Always "Max,..."
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04-25-2016 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
Dunno, I think Joshua will have a set of balls which will enable him to dictate to Eddie rather than the other way about. Brook otoh doesn't seem to have much of a clue when it comes to stuff like that.
They're boxers not businessmen. Boxers are normally uneducated people who were born into poverty. Most of them are a fish out of water when it comes to business and promoting fights. They normally just assume that the promoters have their best interests in mind. Trusting people who shouldn't be trusted is part of why a lot of boxers get ****ed once their career is done.

It's rare to see a boxer to surpass his own promoter. We've seen it with Mayweather and I believe Ali. But who else has been able to dictate what the promoter does for them rather than the other way around?
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04-25-2016 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem
I love when GGG and Max talk. Always "Max,..."
Hahah. This x100.
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04-25-2016 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
They're boxers not businessmen. Boxers are normally uneducated people who were born into poverty. Most of them are a fish out of water when it comes to business and promoting fights. They normally just assume that the promoters have their best interests in mind. Trusting people who shouldn't be trusted is part of why a lot of boxers get ****ed once their career is done.

It's rare to see a boxer to surpass his own promoter. We've seen it with Mayweather and I believe Ali. But who else has been able to dictate what the promoter does for them rather than the other way around?
I agree 100% with what you're saying but I think AJ is different. Time will tell I guess.
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04-25-2016 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem
I love when GGG and Max talk. Always "Max,..."
A GGG soundboard would be basically five buttons:

" Max..."
"I know my situation"
"Thank you for my team, thank you for my fans"
"Is good boy"
"This is box. Respect box"

And recently:
"Muchas gracias for my Spanish fans. Muchas gracias"
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04-25-2016 , 12:43 PM
I thought GGG-Wade was a pretty bad non-stoppage after the next to last knockdown. There was no way Wade was in any kind of shape to continue at that point. The ref sent him out to get killed.


PairTheBoard
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04-25-2016 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
A GGG soundboard would be basically five buttons:

" Max..."
"I know my situation"
"Thank you for my team, thank you for my fans"
"Is good boy"
"This is box. Respect box"

And recently:
"Muchas gracias for my Spanish fans. Muchas gracias"
Wtf?!?! No "drama show" button?!?!
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04-25-2016 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PairTheBoard
I thought GGG-Wade was a pretty bad non-stoppage after the next to last knockdown. There was no way Wade was in any kind of shape to continue at that point. The ref sent him out to get killed.


PairTheBoard
Let us be clear, sending him out there at any point was sending him out to get killed. That said, yeah, rewatching it the ref had to ask about 4 times "Do you want to continue", at that point, he should know to stop it.

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Wtf?!?! No "drama show" button?!?!
GGG doesn't say that much anymore. Sadly, if I forgot any button, it is likely "This is Middleweight division. 160, no 155"
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04-25-2016 , 07:40 PM
Yeah, I was surprised the ref let it continue after the second knockdown. I mean Wade looked like he didn't want to be there after the first knockdown let alone the second.
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04-26-2016 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 425kid
Casual boxing fan here. Is there anything left for GGG at 160 if Canelo won't fight him? Is he the kind of guy who can move weight classes or is he just going to destroy this division until he retires?
If Canelo won't fight him, Canelo gets stripped and GGG likely fights Saunders. If not Saunders, perhaps Jacobs mandatory works. Not sure if Haymon is ready to cash that in yet, but it would be compelling. If not those two, Tureno Johnson is another option. I think those are all more likely than Ramirez. Ramirez is young and coming off of a big win, I don't think they want to sacrifice his O to GGG. He's got length and size, but GGG is a force, even for a small-medium middleweight. It's like a 90-10 and Ramirez is probably close to 50-50 vs DeGale right now, who is the class of that division. Stupid to take him down a big notch vs GGG for what is likely not even 2x the money he'd get against a legit 168lber.

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Originally Posted by PairTheBoard
I thought GGG-Wade was a pretty bad non-stoppage after the next to last knockdown. There was no way Wade was in any kind of shape to continue at that point. The ref sent him out to get killed.
Totally agree.

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Bob, great breakdown!

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One last thing, this Gomez/DLH talk about how GGG wouldn't move up to fight Ward so why should Canelo move up is BS. Ward wasn't active + is a big 168lber. GGG literally weighs less than Canelo on fight night. Canelo should be the one to fight Ward first, and NOBODY ever says that. Canelo is just using his age to cut a ridiculous amount of weight on weigh ins, he needs to be called out for that a lot more than he already is. None of this 155lb BS with GGG, he is the heavier man, stop ducking and making excuses and all that jazz (especially when you hold the 160lb belt). Cotto was bad enough, a WW masquerading as a MW, but this Canelo stuff is ridiculous. Every time he's asked, Abel Sanchez needs to say "Canelo is bigger than GGG, we should enforce a 170lb day of fighting weight on him" to shut them up.
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04-27-2016 , 09:18 AM


Wlad's just told Fury to **** off in the presser.

Wlad "I will knock Fury out".
Fury "You couldn't knock a wank out"

"A fat man beat you Wlad"

Spoiler:

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04-27-2016 , 09:49 AM
Comes in the ring with a gut like that, only thing he'll be knocking out is the cashier who tells him that he ate the last of the donuts in the pastry shop.
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04-27-2016 , 12:47 PM
whoa just noticed uchiyama got upset in a knockout last night in japan


been the champ of 130 for about 6 years. talk of him fighting javier fortuna soon (i was hoping to see that bc i'm a fortuna fan) but instead he fought this corrales guy. supposedly odds went down from 15-1 to 5-1 so i wonder if there was any funny business

i'll be honest i have never actually seen uchiyama fight but i know he was the guy to beat at 130. undefeated but 36 years old. this guy he was fighting has 8 KOs in 20 fights so doesn't seem like a world beater but some random panamian. 6 KOs in a row though so who knows.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/4...econd-round-ko

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04-27-2016 , 03:04 PM
So has Boxnation officially got that Fury fight?
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04-27-2016 , 04:28 PM
Yes, Sky had first option but declined it as it interferes with making Joshua a global phenomenon.
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04-27-2016 , 06:14 PM
would have preferred a fight with stiverne tbh

breazele arguably lost to fred kasspi- the guy fighting hughie fury this weekend (btw one judge in that fight scored it 100-90 for breazele which was just possibly the worst card i have ever seen)


don't think we learn much from this fight but i guess it allows the hype artists to say he is fighting a YOUNG DANGEROUS UNDEFEATED OLYMPIAN
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04-27-2016 , 08:53 PM
Stiverne was dropped from the top 15 so he can't actually face him (even if they could make a deal with Don King).
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04-28-2016 , 03:04 AM
Tyson Fury is a freak and a very weird dude. Boxing needs more guys like him.

Wlad's face in that video was like, "I can't believe I lost to this guy."

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04-28-2016 , 04:19 AM
Fury has 10 weeks to get into shape ...

I get the feeling he is underestimating a lot more focused Wlad this time and could well come a cropper.

Fury will make a shed load of cash from these two fights with Wlad and maybe that is good enough for him.

Seeing how dedicated Fury is over the coming weeks will be interesting ... but i bet he comes in heavier than his last fight.
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04-28-2016 , 06:27 AM
So Wlad is free money at -120 right? Wlad probably got a little complacent from his dominance. Probably training like a mad man.

Fury looks terrible!
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04-28-2016 , 08:08 AM


He'll be in shape come fight night, Peter Fury will make sure of that.
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04-28-2016 , 09:33 AM
I really don't see Wlad taking Fury lightly. Wlad has knocked out fighters as big as Fury. Such an embarrassing loss combined with Fury's antics should light a fire under Wlad.

Got Wlad by KO
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04-28-2016 , 09:55 AM
I can't get over how awful Fury looks physically. I dread to think what he'll look like a few years after retiring.
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04-28-2016 , 11:32 AM
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I can't get over how awful Fury looks physically. I dread to think what he'll look like a few years after retiring.


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04-28-2016 , 11:38 AM
Wlad has a mountain to climb. He needs to start by throwing a few punches. All he did was jab in the first fight.

It is highly possible though that Fury will be happy with the ~25mi that he has bagged from the 2 fights and comes in outta hsape and ready to retire

Expect anything from Dyson
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