Linares v Garcia please

Hopkins sounded really off tonight too, was it just me?[/QUOTE]

I didn't see that fight but I don't like Hopkins as an announcer - I much prefer Ray Jones Jr. Hopkins too often mangles what he is trying to say & by the time he gets it out - other things may have happened in a fight, although I'm sure B-Hop has boxing knowledge galore - he's got to get it out fast and understandable IMHO.

I didn't see that fight but I don't like Hopkins as an announcer - I much prefer Ray Jones Jr. Hopkins too often mangles what he is trying to say & by the time he gets it out - other things may have happened in a fight, although I'm sure B-Hop has boxing knowledge galore - he's got to get it out fast and understandable IMHO.[/QUOTE]

Ray? Come on man.

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Anyway, that's what was meant by the phrase "sounded really off".

He did at times sound that way but it's not necessarily brain damage. BHop hasn't done this for long. RJJ sucked at commentary during his first stint at HBO. He's much better at it now though he won't be for long if he doesn't stop boxing.

How the f has he already lost one of his pro fights?

Laurence Cole

Salido also outweighed him by 10lbs that night.


Edit:Also missed weight.

Salido came in way heavy for a fight. Dude has a legit case as the #1 p4p boxer in the world as long as you don't require a resume comparison.

His footwork and angles are insane.

What's wrong with Lomachenko's resume? Best amateur career ever and he's defeated some pretty good fighters already.

I think though, most importantly, is he passes the eye test in his victories.

Is there really a big difference between Jacobs/Murray/Lemieux vs Martinez/Walters vs old Hopkins/Bellew/old Pascal x2? Those are GGG, Loma and Kovalev's victorious resumes (though I think Kovalev beat Ward). Same with Crawford, other than fighting a blown up Gamboa, his best victory is probably Postol. Good fighter, but none of these guys has decisively beat anyone who is near top p4p. Roman has done that.

I'd still probably vote for Roman, pound for pound I think he's probably still the best. Put him back at his prime weight a few divisions down and I think he'd look the best out of all these guys. Put GGG up to 175, Kovalev up to Cruiser and Loma up to welterweight and see how'd they do vs the top competition. That's what Roman just did, so it's hard to punish him for a disputed loss in my book when he didn't look bad really.

Also, how does Manny not get mentioned? He just keeps dominating everyone put in front of him, his boxing skills are still excellent and he fights in a much less reckless way these days.

My list is something like Roman, Loma, Manny, Kovalev/Ward (tie), GGG, Crawford right now.

**** **** **** 5 years ago!!! AND I KNOW KNOW IN 2017!!!

TRIBUTE to CORRIE focking SANDERS!

getting shoted in a restarant for a focking portemonaie!!!!!, a guy like this dosent deserve **** like that.

for me one of the biggest heroes of all time in heavy weight boxing, icould cry atm because its 5 years ago.

tribute and watch this vs the focking klitschkos way back. Corrie focking Sanders!!!!!!

This was so focking good!!! the times whh klitschkos dominate.


fock you tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVsDayVzpSw




Older brother (for me vitali better overall then vladi, cause hes a fighter like vs lenox lewis back in the days, also very great fight, tbh




fock you tube again!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL9lsLDtJFU

whats heavywight boxing at moment im out since 5 years god damit!!!

I think it's a little better than it has been for awhile now. Joshua has legitimate superstar potential, his fight vs Wlad will be a real test.

Guys like Ortiz, Wilder and possibly Parker are all in the mix too.

Povetkin's multiple failed drug tests and Fury's sanity have sort of derailed their careers respectively, but when they have their heads on right they are competitive with anybody.

There's a host of other guys who will be underdogs vs the top guys but have the potential to upset them and put up a good fight.

I think Cruiserweight in particular is just a hands down better division right now, and several others like Welterweight, but HW is watchable for the first time in years (for me), so I think that says something.

I remember seeing an awesome picture taken just after the Sanders V Vlad fight when Sanders seemed to be goading Vlad (the impression I got was that Vlad wouldn't accept defeat in the way that Sanders wanted so it was as if Sanders was saying "there there, don't worry son", or something), but it may not have actually been like that. Anyway, big brother Vitali was right there by his bro staring at Sanders will evil ("I'm going get you") eyes.

I tried to find it a while back on Google but couldn't, and maybe my memory is a bit off, but the big brother avenges little bro aspect was a great line for that Vitali fight.

I have Loma as the best fighter in the world p4p, but he has 10 fights. There are those that would exclude him based on the number, and that's what I meant.

Also, I rank Manny as the #1 fighter of his generation, so I mention him plenty.

Right now, I'd probably say:
Loma
Choco
GGG
Bud
Manny
Kovalev

In or about that order

What do you guys think of Spence/Brook? I know there was talk about it when the fight was announced but don't see any recently.

Great fight . I like spence slightly but it's a really good 50/50 fight assuming brook is the same fighter as before GGG fight

Agree. I can't wait for this fight.

Luis Ortiz has joined Haymon btw. Hearn made a real **** up of promoting him although tbf Ortiz stunk the place out as well.

No loss really. Don't know why they were promoting Ortiz anyway, Matchrooms strategy is all about building fighters in their home town and Ortiz can't even speak English.

Haymon's fighters all have their own promoters. Some, like Stevenson, have big promoters (Yvon Michael) while many of them just have smaller/lower level promoters/promoters that just step up to promote an individual PBC show.

Haymon gets his guys insane money for the risk and handles so much for the fighters that most don't really need a top notch promoter, but I could see Ortiz staying with Hearn (even though he was on a fight by fight deal I believe and only just left Goldenboy last fall).

Haymon advises Selby and DeGale I believe, both Hearn promoted guys.

ringtv reporting ward-kovalev 2 happening on june 17th

i thought kovalev won the first one barely but wasn't a robbery. i think a lot of people will prob think ward wins this won easier given 2nd half dominance of the fight and his general boxing skills but i'm not really convinced. i still think kovalev is an absolutely elite fighter and i think he is legitimately pissed off that ward took his 0 in a questionable decision and will come hungry. really surprised this fight is happening this quickly tbh, i thought ward would pussyfoot around and possibly never fight him again. pretty stoked

also some toe to toe tuesday action tonight on fs1. actually a relatively decent main event in that at least it isn't really a prospect v a completely overmatched bum. omar douglas isn't really a blue chipper and lost to fortuna but could still be an okay B fighter and cherry isn't a bum plus i rate fortuna higher than most so don't consider that loss too bad

Rigo fighting on that card (very likely) as well. Is good.

Probably going to put a huge bet on Ward winning.

Yea I don't really see why everyone says Ward will have it easier.

I don't see how Ward can improve much from the first fight. He won some close rounds, but I'm with the majority, I thought Kovalev won.

Kovalev, meanwhile, abandoned punch output in a lot of those close rounds and rushed in too much. Those are two clear things he can improve.

Not that it will be easy, but I think Kovalev has an edge in the rematch, maybe a 2-1 edge. I think the most likely case where Ward wins is that he makes it ugly like a lot of the first fight and he peels off enough "not much happened" rounds to take it.