Away fans are more than welcome at Jack Daniels and you'll get zero bother whatsoever, in fact I guarantee a lot of 'well fans will start speaking to you......I know McFadden wasn't that great for you but he's somewhat of a hero in Motherwell so expect a lot of Faddy talk

I've only been to the Social Club 3 times, it's not a bad place but I seem to remember waiting about 20mins for a pint in there once. I'd def recommend JDs first.

And the biggest draws of the year are...anyone?

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C'mon man.

And most of the senior clubs in Scotland don't play the OF. There are 12 clubs in the SPL, 30 in the SFL.

Nobody knows what kind of loss of TV money would be incurred if neither OF team played in Scotland. I don't know the figures but I'm sure the OF take the lion's share of whatever they currently get from television. I've no idea if an increase in paying punters would negate and surpass the loss of TV revenue, but I think they need to stop focusing on increasing TV revenue and cut their cloth accordingly. We're never going to have anything like the product that England can offer to the networks.

Look at Falkirk, relegated from the SPL a couple of years ago, they've had to cut their wage bill by 70% and have now posted profits, which will be invested back into the youth academy. They've focussed more on young players and been able to bring money in through their sale, while entertaining fans with great football, bringing at least a little success.

This is the only way forward for Scottish football. Whether or not clubs would be a few quid better or worse off without the OF is something we can only speculate on, but should there be no OF in Scotland, I think it's safe to say we could have a great competitive league which would attract more paying punters through the gates.

To me that means being better off than the current cut throat self preservation allows.

I wonder how many foreign players play in the Scandinavian leagues. I don't think I've ever seen a Scandinavian game on TV. I'm sure the people love following their teams just the same, and would guess that they have a higher % of home grown players in their respective leagues. Their teams are far more competitive than anyone outside the OF, in European terms, and their national teams are light years ahead of Scotland.

In my opinion, get the OF to ****, and get us back to a league of true competition where we no longer need to bring in sub standard foreign mercenaries to preserve our position in the top 12 or to make pathetic yearly attempts to compete on the Euro stage.

Slainte!

I disagree. I think Celtic would be a valuable addition to the English league.

I think Rangers and Celtic together would be, on some levels, a good addition; however, the problem is that nobody wants Rangers fans on their doorstep.

Celtic have their idiots like every club, but I think you need to look east to find anyone, if there is anyone, with the same level of absolute wankery that a travelling Rangers support brings.

You know when the huns are in town as you can be sure you'll find ****s pishing in your doorway, and the place will be left a tip with all the empty MD and buckie bottles thrown in your garden.

For some reason they seem to be a gross exacerbation of all the negative characteristics of the Scottish.

in my experience the majority consensus amongst fans in England is that neither old firm team is wanted in the epl, certainly no preference to having one over the other

Celtic fans at away games are just as bad as huns at away games.

I think for the most part the travelling Celtic fans showed what they are about when inside others stadiums during the season just past- was one big party for most of the year, right?

As for pish and buckie bottles, that would be the same for any support that travels in the thousands rather than the low hundreds.

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I applied for 2 season tickets today for me and the wee man, looking forward to going to every home game I can get to.

Another vote today?

Been out all day so have no idea how that went but I'm guessing the huns in SPL wasn't back on the agenda?

Dundee have been invited to join the SPL, no idea how this has come about tbh (well apart from the fact that the rules only matter when somebody gives a ****), Dunfermilne should not have been relegated in the first place.

This will rumble on for a bit also.

****ing shambles all caused by you know who.

Lots of chat about them not playing football next season after all and some other nonsense about them having only 6 players (wtf lying bastards).

6 player nonsense is taken apart on scotslawthoughts (can't do links, sorry).

I'll send payment details soon deathorglory

I'm not claiming to know all but I've been to enough Rangers and Celtic away games to say I disagree.

Weatherseal becomes first sponsor to confirm they'll continue to back the SPL...and apparently this is considered newsworthy by the folks running celticfc.net?

Sorry, if you're that excited about a minnow keeping their sponsorship commitment...#notagoodlook

Brian Kennedy own weatherseal (blue knight leader)? Obv makes this a wee bit newsworthy.

There is talk of stripping titles on the agenda again and its about time too.

Also, fat Sally will be hauled in front of the beaks for his 'who are these people, we must know!!!', again this is long overdue. Get him banned to **** the spiteful ****.

Assume rangers lose every title ever... how many in a row does that give Celtic?

I make it 17 and counting

Fair enough. You're wrong, but fair enough.

Unless we're talking about degrees of disgraceful behaviour, in which case it could definitely be argued that the huns are more disgraceful than celtic, but they're both still disgraceful.

Isn't it just since 2001 they'll get the titles stripped?

They should be stripped from the history books if they've cheated the system.

Celtic vs HJK Helsinki (or KR Reykjavik, if they can come back from 7-0 first leg deficit)

Motherwell vs Panathanikos

I'll wait until after the tie is over before saying wether or not it was a good draw for us as Celtic are more than capable of getting pumped by minnows at the best of times.

Looks like a tough draw for da well too.

Seems like the correct ruling.

As if you have a clue what would be the correct ruling here.

Correct ruling would be - new club = no sanctions and you have to apply to join the league along with anyone else that wants in (also must then adhere to any rules to qualify for entry).

What happened here is a helping hand to a brand new club to the detriment of others.

Only in Scotland.

Would tagging on rangers debts to sevco fc also be the correct ruling here or shall we just forget about them?

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Just reread langers quote, hahahahahahahahagtfo rangers are dead.

This might sound stupid but I'll ask anyway.

Q1. Are they a brand new club?

If the answer to this is no then ignore Q2.

Q2. If they are a new club why are they carrying on the transfer embargo at all?