tiftuk, another for you....

Clyde1 is back, hurting huns everywhere

Awesome marty keep em comin'

cool response bro

This just adds to the mystique and presence of Souness. GOAT IMO.

Wonder if Gatuso will still want to play for the new rangers?

ffs what did i miss?

this is all just so bizarre

Just fold one club, start another one with no debt, and problem is solved? Theres no way they should be allowed to play in the SPL next season as a reformed company, that would just be absolutely ridiculous.

Mind you, I saw on SSN tonight that all their players contracts will no longer be valid and all the top players can leave for nowt, so if they did stay in the SPL, celtic fans might get the added pleasure of watching them get relegated.

Just strange all round. Get shot of this club and start all over again like AFC Wimbledon.

I don't think they'll get back in the SPL. No way the other clubs let them in. I mean they owe serious money (for smaller SPL clubs) across the league and aren't giving a **** about them.

They then come out and say they're going to raise money and sign new players.

How can they do that?

Oh they're out of contracts on a free.

Ah right, so they'll be playing for nothing as well?

I don't think they'll be able to keep any of the players as marty said, they've got no money to pay them and i'm sure most players there won't accept a near 90% pay cut, i sure as hell wouldn't.

Also if their assets do go up for sale, Celtic should buy them and paint them green for lols

From the BBC...

So the club are okay to stiff £100m plus worth of creditors, but the players have to be transferred to the newco? lol.

how does this guy have the gall to be making demands, what a loon

What about the BIG tax bill?

Will that be left to individuals to pay as well?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18413384

He is the people, you wouldn't understand.

This might help...

So does this thing really exist where Sky/ESPN can pull the plug on their TV deal if Rangers are not in the SPL?

ESPN won't care, they didn't have the derby games anyway and sky already show speedway/fishing/Irish football........so it is very very unlikely that there will be no deal for the SPL.

Again, I like this line of thinking - ignore the cheating and worry about the possible money that can be generated. It is totally ****ing wrong.

There apparently is a clause in the Sky deal that allows them to scrap their contract if there's not the 4 Old Firm league derby games each year. This first came to light when people were talking about expanding the SPL to 14-16 teams as a reason why teams couldn't just play each other twice. Marty should also note that someone not having the Old Firm rights in the UK is not the same as not having the Old Firm rights period. It's not that there would be no deal, it's that the existing one would be ripped up and replaced with a much smaller one. Would be nice if the TV deal agreed could be split equally between the clubs though, instead of giving the lions share to the two big teams as now.

And of course smaller TV deal = less money = clubs cutting their playing budgets even more, on top of the loss of funds from the Rangers support.

Obviously Rangers not being in Europe opens up possibly financial benefits from that for the other clubs, but given how every Scottish team is useless in Europe including Celtic it's unlikely to be much of a positive. If Celtic could actually regularly qualify for the CL group stages, like diddy Cypriot teams can, then they'd make north of 10 million Euros from it every season. But none of the other clubs can hope for much from Europe and the Europa League isn't lucrative unless you get far. No-one in Scotland is good enough to do that.

No-one at SPL clubs is ignoring the cheating, they are legitimately worried about their clubs financial future, otherwise they'd have just punted Rangers without a 2nd thought. For a lot of the chairmen it is pretty much 'cut off your nose to spite your face' whichever decision they make. Dunfermline almost went tits up when Rangers were late paying money earlier this season, it's a real problem for the other clubs.

Which makes the vote on allowing 'new' Rangers into the SPL super interesting.

They need 8 yes votes. Celtic and Hearts will definitively vote against them, so it only takes 3 more clubs to disagree and they can't get in.

Hibs chairman said: "Integrity is beyond purchase. It's not a question of any sum of money in return for that integrity." which seems like a no as well.

Aberdeen fans have a longstanding hatred towards Rangers so they are a possible no.

Kilmarnock are apparently a yes vote though, so that's two for including Rangers own (lol) vote.

Marty, you seriously need to get a grip. Like honestly. Look at it from a business POV for the other SPL clubs. If Sky/ESPN threaten to cut back money if Rangers are not in the league do you not think that MIGHT have an impact on any potential vote? Im guessing most SPL clubs are just keeping their heads above water as it is and if the TV money was reduced then they would really struggle.

We are just looking at every possible outcome here. You can keep posting your gifs and pictures, fair play to you but if some of us want to have a discussion about other things then can you please let us do it without going off the handle?

i have no time for considering whether there'll be a tv contract because it stands to reason that there will be 100%, if that is on lower terms then so be it. I'd much prefer this was talked about after rangers are dealt with - **** them, they cheated the system and there can be no consideration for them (which is all this TV contract crap is).

DS, clubs may be considering the cost, but i doubt very many fans other than rangers fans that want to blow smoke up people's arse's are.

noted about ESPN's possible rights elsewhere and i'm already fully aware there may not be the same money for tv rights, i don't really care.

R U SERIOUS?

i'm not sure you are.

hint...read the op again, i think you may be imagining things.

I've taken a bit of interest in this situation and Im trying to keep up to speed with what is going on. I hate both Old Firm clubs as you know but it doesn't mean I can't change my ways and be civil.

I just don't wanna see you get banned again.

I have no words for this.

why you talking about me being banned again?

Kevin, my "it is totally ****ing wrong" was not just for your benefit and not aimed at you personally either, i'm just fed up reading/listening to it (tv) as if this should be the main consideration in whether rangers get punished or not.

as shown by...

lol, you just get pretty passionate about all things Celtic which usually doesn't end well for you. Didn't mean anything by it.

No-one has said it is the "main consideration", we are just looking at all the angles. I don't see what is wrong with that, it surely has to a be a factor in a clubs decision, do you not think? It seems even Celtic fans itt are sick of hearing about Rangers, just bust them already and be done with it. Roll on the next chapter so we can get a laugh at how this is all gonna be handled. Rather badly I'd say.