right. the important thing is cracking down on these filthy cheaters, not making sure everything is all like accurate and stuff.
yes i'm aware. i'll try not to use metaphors from now on.

doesn't know what a vegan is.

What is the chance of a false positive for 20:1 testosterone? Oh, you don't know?

What is the chance of a false positive for synthetic testosterone? Really, that small?

Rome tweet from yesterday

ikes, presumably you've done some mass spec work. What exactly is the problem here? Seems using some other test to detect and mass spec to confirm should be pretty foolproof.

No test is foolproof, and we're not talking only about Braun. We're talking about why wada sucks balls.

You cant fool a mass spec when you have a purified sample. Its that cut and dry.

It can easily deferentiate between isotopes of more than 1 atomic mass. And you can integrate the intensity peaks of each signal to produce a ratio of isotopes present.
But to get to that point, you have to purify your sample so that you can specifically examine a narrow range of known mass to charge ratio of a given sample. Purifying the sample also destroys it, hence the need of 2 samples (which they refer to as A or B) and is inherently much more subjective and prone to errors.

So the tripping point here is the process of purifying the sample.

But if they successfully do so, and produce a clean mass spectra that shows an isotope ratio ( I assume that synthetic testosterone is 99.95% c12 and natural testosterone is something like 98% and the rest is a naturally occuring form of mostly c13) that indicates the presence of too much c12 and not enough 13 that its a mortal lock that there is synthetic testosterone present in his piss, which explains why he was found to have a 20:1 ratio in the first place.

Exactly, a mass spec is going to be pretty accurate (yes i work in a lab). But I think he's saying someone ****ed up before that. But I don't care, and who the **** knows.

If they're using friggin MASS SPECTROMETRY (expensive as ****) to confirm the results of their preliminary tests then they are going far above what I've seen in real world labs. We certainly aren't doing mass spec in the hospital lab.

But hospital labs actually publish things like false positive rates and actually try to determine normal ranges in the scientific community. WADA, otoh, hides everything and gives athletes little due process to fight any positive result.

I feel like Braun's team questioning the chain of custody and not the test its self is just a strategic move. I think that Braun saying he is innocent and that he would bet his life the substance never entered his body is in its self questioning the test.

Also, would he be questioning the test as a false positive or saying the test was tampered with. Once again the tampering issue can go back to the chain of custody problems.

Anyone who know a lot about drug testing and such, after a sample is sealed, is it possible to tamper with the sample?

basically, no you can't tamper with a tamper sealed sample without it being obvious

Could tampering with the bottle/cup/container before Braun's sample would be in it be possible?

cash mahne: your hero cheated. it's ok.

I am sure you wouldn't have any questions if some guy who is a fan of a rival team took your urine sample home for 44 hours, when the procedures say it must be mailed the same day.

Occam's Razor tho

dont you think there are standardized protocols for these things?

the guy from espn said that the test administrator followed all the rules from mlb and his company.

it's not some schlep who asks braun to piss in a tupperware container.

Bonds and Braun are similar in that they are both likely dopers that managed to come out looking better than MLB because of MLB's incompetence and pettiness.

The media and government were both much harsher on Bonds.

it's really weird defending ikes but the argument with aggo is not about braun's specific test. everyone with a clue realizes that he almost certainly used a banned substance.

Yup, braun's case is tangentially related. If Braun had ****ed up some procedural thing and missed a test, he'd be in deep ****. It's only fair to hold the MLB to the same standard.

now the collector issued a statement.

Braun looks bad here imo. still wanna bet your life?

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anyone got dem google maps?

Piss collector seems like a great job.

So this bro beat the system and got some shots in at Selig or something? Nice.