Rumors...Sign Nick Foles? Doug Pederson's A Genius?
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Chip giving a lucid answer at one of his "give you nothing while talking really fast" press conferences.
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Chip's track record in the NFL suggests he will be an okay coach at best; Chip's record at 20 - 12 during regular season games is deceptive. There is absolutely no evidence to support the claim the Chip is a winning coach in the NFL without Nick Foles as quarterback.
With Foles as the starting quarterback, Chip's record as coach makes him a .778 winner (14 - 4) over 18 games. This is a large enough sample by any standard to be reliable. On the other hand, Chip's record With Vick and Sanchez combined is a dismal (6 - 8), leaving this "revolutionary football genius" with a sub-par record at .429. Prior to Foles being the named the starter, Chip had at his disposal in Vick a quarterback who was once considered elite in Atlanta and in Philadelphia under Reid. There's no excuse for Kelly as to why he started at 1 - 3 in the NFL. Chip is lucky Vick pulled his hamstring in his own end zone against NY leaving Kelly no choice but to replace him with Foles. That game was being controlled by the Giants from the start, and it was written all over Chip's face. Things turned around after the QB change. Furthermore, after Nick Foles was injured, we witnessed Chip go from 9 - 3 with everything locked up to 10 - 6 with nail in the coffin losses to Dallas and Washington. Aaron Rogers expression against us, and Green Bay's coach's mid game coffee sipping sum up what I'm getting at. We all know that Mark Sanchez has been to an AFC Championship game and has roughly a .500 record. Back-up quarterback or not, Chip had plenty to work with in Sanchez. Mike Vick and Mark Sanchez each had the same players surrounding them as Nick Foles did and showed up with vastly different results. If you make the argument that the reason Nick has such an unbelievable record in the NFL as the starter is his teammates and coach, then in the same breath explain why Vick and Sanchez performed so poorly under the exact same set of circumstances.
As for Nick's losses. The defense let us down in the 2013 playoff game against the Saints, not the quarterback. Nick was clutch against Arizona, giving us the lead with no time on the clock only to have Palmer light up our secondary from the other side of the field. Palmer's bomb should never have been caught. If Arizona had put together a drive and beat us that's one thing. You tip your hat. But the secondary gives up a 90 yard play with a minute left.... Come on man! Against the 49'ers Nick drives us to the 1 yard line. During this drive "The mastermind coach" doesn't challenge a critical spot call and doesn't choose to run the ball or call a quarterback sneak with a 6'6", 245lbs QB. During the press conference Chip says, "the reason I didn't run the ball is the defensive line had been stuffing the run all day and I didn't think it would work". Good answer "genius"..... As coach at the 1 yard line with two plays to go and the game on the line, if you don't think you can pick up a yard with a run of one sort or another, you're not prepared.
Where did Nick let us down? His reduced QB rating? His turnovers? His personality? The only reasonable argument I've ever heard against Foles is he is prone to injury. QB rating will drop and turnovers will increase when the coach gives up a top 5 wide receiver in the league for nothing because that receiver is ?!?!?!. Still haven't heard a reasonable answer on that issue. And when you lose the receiver being doubled every other play, who puts fear into the safety's heart, the opposition doesn't have to worry much about the deep threat and focuses more on pressing. Jackson spread the field. Without him, windows were tightened and the defensive focused on stuffing the front line. I don't buy the argument that Nick was struggling because he was working with a make-shift offensive line. They did a decent enough job. Regardless of the QB rating and turnover increase, he was still producing prior to getting hurt and the losses he incurred against Arizona and San-Fran are heavily weighted towards the responsibility of pathetic final defensive stand against Arizona and extremely poor end of game coaching against the 49'ers.
As for the argument that Nick can't win a Super Bowl. How the **** do you know? The eye test? .778 in the NFL is a top tier record, especially for a young quarterback. Look it up. More importantly in tight spots with the game on the line (New Orleans, Arizona, SF), Nick has show he puts together a strong drives when it matters most. He defeated Luck's Indianapolis in a close contest. As for the lack of personality and leadership argument against Nick. So what? The guy doesn't say much and isn't everybody's pal on the sidelines. Besides local sports radio, who cares? On the field in the NFL, against the biggest, toughest, most skilled men on the planet, Nick has consistently shown that he can lead his team to W's.
Now, because of our "quarterback situation", (whatever the **** that means), it's time to trade Foles to move up the draft in the hopes of picking up a college kid who choked in his bowl game. All we hear is how this kid fits our offense so perfectly and his upside is unbelievable. Why didn't Vick or Sanchez fit the scheme? How is this kid so different from either of those two QB's, besides the fact that he's untested in the NFL. The guy isn't going to be a .778 winner in the NFL. One bowl game or not, when it's for all the marbles, your performance matters. He didn't show up. But hey, at least he has personality, is well spoken, and has swag. And most importantly, Chip "knows" him.
If Chip Kelly trades Foles to move up in the draft with the hopes of picking up a QB from the college team Chip had success at, that would be as dumb as cutting DeSean Jackson because ?!?!?, while simultaneously keeping and heaping praise on "Mr. Butterfingers" (a.k.a. Cooper), after Coop was videotaped saying some racist bull****, and whose performance on the field isn't anything to write home about. Yes chip, we know Riley Cooper is a good blocker.
As for the coach's decision to release Jackson an hour after a bogus article shows up in NJ.com making unfounded and speculative claims against Jackson. Chip can talk all day long, but he knows damn well that when you do that, the implication is that Jackson was involved of something that the Eagles couldn't afford to be a part of, and the media and fans had a field day tossing around all types of slanderish ****. It all turned out to be nonsensical hogwash and Chip's decision to release Jackson bit him in the ass against Washington, completely eliminating even the remote possibility for a playoff birth.
With that said, do you think Chip is a good coach? Do you think Foles should be traded?
CaptainCrazo (Eric)
With Foles as the starting quarterback, Chip's record as coach makes him a .778 winner (14 - 4) over 18 games. This is a large enough sample by any standard to be reliable. On the other hand, Chip's record With Vick and Sanchez combined is a dismal (6 - 8), leaving this "revolutionary football genius" with a sub-par record at .429. Prior to Foles being the named the starter, Chip had at his disposal in Vick a quarterback who was once considered elite in Atlanta and in Philadelphia under Reid. There's no excuse for Kelly as to why he started at 1 - 3 in the NFL. Chip is lucky Vick pulled his hamstring in his own end zone against NY leaving Kelly no choice but to replace him with Foles. That game was being controlled by the Giants from the start, and it was written all over Chip's face. Things turned around after the QB change. Furthermore, after Nick Foles was injured, we witnessed Chip go from 9 - 3 with everything locked up to 10 - 6 with nail in the coffin losses to Dallas and Washington. Aaron Rogers expression against us, and Green Bay's coach's mid game coffee sipping sum up what I'm getting at. We all know that Mark Sanchez has been to an AFC Championship game and has roughly a .500 record. Back-up quarterback or not, Chip had plenty to work with in Sanchez. Mike Vick and Mark Sanchez each had the same players surrounding them as Nick Foles did and showed up with vastly different results. If you make the argument that the reason Nick has such an unbelievable record in the NFL as the starter is his teammates and coach, then in the same breath explain why Vick and Sanchez performed so poorly under the exact same set of circumstances.
As for Nick's losses. The defense let us down in the 2013 playoff game against the Saints, not the quarterback. Nick was clutch against Arizona, giving us the lead with no time on the clock only to have Palmer light up our secondary from the other side of the field. Palmer's bomb should never have been caught. If Arizona had put together a drive and beat us that's one thing. You tip your hat. But the secondary gives up a 90 yard play with a minute left.... Come on man! Against the 49'ers Nick drives us to the 1 yard line. During this drive "The mastermind coach" doesn't challenge a critical spot call and doesn't choose to run the ball or call a quarterback sneak with a 6'6", 245lbs QB. During the press conference Chip says, "the reason I didn't run the ball is the defensive line had been stuffing the run all day and I didn't think it would work". Good answer "genius"..... As coach at the 1 yard line with two plays to go and the game on the line, if you don't think you can pick up a yard with a run of one sort or another, you're not prepared.
Where did Nick let us down? His reduced QB rating? His turnovers? His personality? The only reasonable argument I've ever heard against Foles is he is prone to injury. QB rating will drop and turnovers will increase when the coach gives up a top 5 wide receiver in the league for nothing because that receiver is ?!?!?!. Still haven't heard a reasonable answer on that issue. And when you lose the receiver being doubled every other play, who puts fear into the safety's heart, the opposition doesn't have to worry much about the deep threat and focuses more on pressing. Jackson spread the field. Without him, windows were tightened and the defensive focused on stuffing the front line. I don't buy the argument that Nick was struggling because he was working with a make-shift offensive line. They did a decent enough job. Regardless of the QB rating and turnover increase, he was still producing prior to getting hurt and the losses he incurred against Arizona and San-Fran are heavily weighted towards the responsibility of pathetic final defensive stand against Arizona and extremely poor end of game coaching against the 49'ers.
As for the argument that Nick can't win a Super Bowl. How the **** do you know? The eye test? .778 in the NFL is a top tier record, especially for a young quarterback. Look it up. More importantly in tight spots with the game on the line (New Orleans, Arizona, SF), Nick has show he puts together a strong drives when it matters most. He defeated Luck's Indianapolis in a close contest. As for the lack of personality and leadership argument against Nick. So what? The guy doesn't say much and isn't everybody's pal on the sidelines. Besides local sports radio, who cares? On the field in the NFL, against the biggest, toughest, most skilled men on the planet, Nick has consistently shown that he can lead his team to W's.
Now, because of our "quarterback situation", (whatever the **** that means), it's time to trade Foles to move up the draft in the hopes of picking up a college kid who choked in his bowl game. All we hear is how this kid fits our offense so perfectly and his upside is unbelievable. Why didn't Vick or Sanchez fit the scheme? How is this kid so different from either of those two QB's, besides the fact that he's untested in the NFL. The guy isn't going to be a .778 winner in the NFL. One bowl game or not, when it's for all the marbles, your performance matters. He didn't show up. But hey, at least he has personality, is well spoken, and has swag. And most importantly, Chip "knows" him.
If Chip Kelly trades Foles to move up in the draft with the hopes of picking up a QB from the college team Chip had success at, that would be as dumb as cutting DeSean Jackson because ?!?!?, while simultaneously keeping and heaping praise on "Mr. Butterfingers" (a.k.a. Cooper), after Coop was videotaped saying some racist bull****, and whose performance on the field isn't anything to write home about. Yes chip, we know Riley Cooper is a good blocker.
As for the coach's decision to release Jackson an hour after a bogus article shows up in NJ.com making unfounded and speculative claims against Jackson. Chip can talk all day long, but he knows damn well that when you do that, the implication is that Jackson was involved of something that the Eagles couldn't afford to be a part of, and the media and fans had a field day tossing around all types of slanderish ****. It all turned out to be nonsensical hogwash and Chip's decision to release Jackson bit him in the ass against Washington, completely eliminating even the remote possibility for a playoff birth.
With that said, do you think Chip is a good coach? Do you think Foles should be traded?
CaptainCrazo (Eric)
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