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09-14-2007 , 01:36 PM
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The whole "Pythagorean W-L" thing holds very little water for me. Run differential is a "decent indicator" of how "good" a team is. But how "good" a team is isn't directly related to how many games they will win.

Some control pitcher going out and "not having it" on a given day, say a Jamie Moyer type, getting pummelled for 9 runs in 2-2/3 innings would be something I'd just shrug off as a fan. It's just a loss. But I do agree that over the course of a season, it should flatten out a bit.

Unless your team has 4 aces and 1 chimpanzee with an ERA of 15.56. Obviously your Pythagorean W-L will vary greatly from your actual W-L.

Something stupid I heard earlier this year, when Orestes Destrade was in Boston after Felix Hernandez beat down Daisuke he was all excited and said (paraphrasing) "Everyone was looking forward to a great game today, most maybe thinking DICE K would win, but I tell ya, us Latinos sure do know how to crash a party ."

Bolded part was verbatim. What an absurd thing to say, in more ways than one.

Is he still on BBTN? I haven't watched in months because the show had gotten so damn awful.
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09-14-2007 , 01:37 PM
Pythag WL has better predictive value of future record than current record.
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09-14-2007 , 02:24 PM
Mike and the Mad Dog are running on right now. I'm not actually listening, just assuming...
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09-14-2007 , 02:32 PM
is run-diff really that much of a factor in determining who is going to win the world series?
I think Boston has the best record in baseball. And perhaps their pitching works well for post-season series which are kind of a different arrangement than the reg-season.
Stuff like that is worth looking into.
Saying that Boston has a great chance to win the world series because their run-differential is so great just seems weird to me.
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09-14-2007 , 02:37 PM
it's just the best indicator of team strength.
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09-14-2007 , 02:45 PM
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watching pti today and the clowns were setting percentages on upcoming events.

chargers beat the pats: korn said 25, wilbon said 10
tiger wins upcoming event: both said 100

i dont remember the others but it was obv these clowns would be broke if they ever bet on sports.
And Kornheiser said 60% chance Tiger wins
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09-14-2007 , 02:47 PM
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us Latinos sure do know how to crash a party ."

Bolded part was verbatim. What an absurd thing to say, in more ways than one.

that's pretty awful.

I can understand the latinos having a certain bond in baseball and pride in their history and success in the major-leagues and even half-joking about it somewhat.
But I suspect that if some white guy or black guy said that about their race it would be immediately noticed.
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09-14-2007 , 02:48 PM
FWIW, I think Anaheim wins it all this year.
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09-14-2007 , 03:11 PM
I heard Doug Gottleib(?) on ESPN radio call the other owners in his fantasy league idiots because they wanted to hold their draft last Saturday and there would have been one game played already (Colts/Saints) and therefore everyone would already "know who to pick".
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09-14-2007 , 05:19 PM
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did ESPN really say that 'most important game between non-ranked teams' crap?
No, they said "most important game between unranked teams in college football history."
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09-14-2007 , 05:28 PM
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On ESPN tonight, Lou Holtz said that if Notre Dame loses to Michigan on Saturday, they'd have a tough time making a BCS Bowl. I'm not making that up. Look in the Week 3 college football thread for confirmation.
That quote is from memory, and might not be exactly his words, but this is pretty damn close:

"If Notre Dame loses this game against Michigan, it's going to be very hard for them to make a third straight BCS bowl game."
- Lou Holtz on 9/13

EDIT: he said this is such a way (voice inflection and all) that suggested IMO that if ND loses they still have a shot at a BCS Bowl game. They will just have a much tougher time, that's all.
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09-14-2007 , 05:50 PM
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Bob, run differential over a season is obviously different than run differential over a 5 game series where they score 30 in one game. Come on now.
Not to mention that he said OPS means nothing as well.
I think the only problem is context. He was asked for a prediction. Stuff like OPS and run differential are very important in predicting things so saying they don't matter in the grand scheme of things is really dumb.

If it wasn't about predicting, I think the statement wouldn't be bad at all depending on what he means by "the grand scheme of things." Most baseball fans probably haven't heard of OPS much less know how it's calculated. Hell, most fans don't even know what slugging percentage is other than some indicator of power, which they basically only get from the name. So if the grand scheme of things has something to do with general popularity then it would be a fine statement.

Also, winning titles is for most players the ultimate thing. I'm sure Barry Bonds would give up .200 points in career OPS for the Giants to have just held on to a [censored] 5 [censored] run [censored] lead for [censored] 3 [censored] innings.

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this. My point is that stats are great for answering questions (such as the one he was asked) but otherwise don't really matter.
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09-14-2007 , 05:51 PM
Here is one of my favorites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjyKHGew0FI
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09-14-2007 , 06:08 PM
oT, thus the name: My favorite to date was an ESPN Radio interview that was being done with some Eagles DB after they got TO. They asked him what he felt about the acquisition, and he said, "TO's a great player. He's got all the intangibles, you know, he's got the size, he's got the speed..."
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09-14-2007 , 06:19 PM
lol he doesn't know size and speed are things that can be tanged?
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09-14-2007 , 06:43 PM
Chris Mortensen bungled one when he ran with the story that Eli would be out at least a month.
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09-14-2007 , 07:03 PM
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I'm sure Barry Bonds would give up .200 points in career OPS for the Giants to have just held on to a [censored] 5 [censored] run [censored] lead for [censored] 3 [censored] innings.

LOL, if you think Bonds would pass that up.
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09-14-2007 , 07:16 PM
Earlier this season Bobby Abreu was at bat with a man on second and one out. It wasn't the ninth, but it was late in the game and the Yankees were behind by a run. After a long at bat, Abreu walked, bringing up ARod. Cue Joe Morgan.

"That's just not the result I want in that situation with my number three batter at the plate."

Of course the Morgan idiocy went unremarked and unchallenged.
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09-14-2007 , 07:19 PM
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Earlier this season Bobby Abreu was at bat with a man on second and one out. It wasn't the ninth, but it was late in the game and the Yankees were behind by a run. After a long at bat, Abreu walked, bringing up ARod. Cue Joe Morgan.

"That's just not the result I want in that situation with my number three batter at the plate."

Of course the Morgan idiocy went unremarked and unchallenged.
Shetfield would have hit a homer.
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09-14-2007 , 07:25 PM
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Earlier this season Bobby Abreu was at bat with a man on second and one out. It wasn't the ninth, but it was late in the game and the Yankees were behind by a run. After a long at bat, Abreu walked, bringing up ARod. Cue Joe Morgan.

"That's just not the result I want in that situation with my number three batter at the plate."

Of course the Morgan idiocy went unremarked and unchallenged.
Shetfield would have hit a homer.
He's that consistent.
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09-14-2007 , 08:33 PM
Edit: nevermind. My Lou Holtz ******ation detector is set too high.
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09-14-2007 , 08:53 PM
I was just watching Playbook on NFL Network, and Sterling Sharpe was talking about the upcoming Chiefs-Bears game. He felt that this would be a good game for Tony Gonzalez to get going, since he had just 28 yards in the opening.

No mention of the fact that the Bears are the best team in the league at covering opposing tight ends.
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09-14-2007 , 10:35 PM
So who let the love in? Now for some of the greatest quotes ever:


"look at that little monkey go!" - Howard Cosell on Redskins WR Alvin Garrett after a run.

"If Miami wins tonight, the Colts would have to win out for the rest of the season just to go 8-8. And trust me, that's one Indy 500 that nobody saw coming." - Dennis Miller, MNF.

"Truth be told, the Monday Night Football vineyard has not yielded an exquisite vintage so far this year. A lot of Ripple, Thunderbird, and Boone's Farm turning up on the wine list." - Dennis Miller on MNF's weak game selection.

It’s no secret that Warner is an ardent, practicing Christian. I’m sure he remembers some long afternoons when the Lions beat up on the Christians. Tonight it could be payback time.” - Dennis Miller on Kurt Warner's Rams vs. Detroit Lions.

I go way back with Lovie, when he was married to Jim Backus.” - Dennis Miller on Lovie Smith.

"The guy's been around so long, he's their Indian-Head nickel-back." - Dennis Miller on Redskins' Darryl Green.

"Claude Rains on the tackle" - Dennis Miller on a ball carrier who accidentally trips and falls down completely untouched.
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09-14-2007 , 10:43 PM
Well, they need more than 448 yards and 0 TD's out of Tony Gonzalez this year to be effective.

448 yards just isn't going to cut it, Tony.
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09-15-2007 , 02:14 AM
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I'm sure Barry Bonds would give up .200 points in career OPS for the Giants to have just held on to a [censored] 5 [censored] run [censored] lead for [censored] 3 [censored] innings.
LOL, if you think there are more than 3 people in the world who would pass that up.
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