Penn State Covers Up For a Pedophile: Sandusky down, Spanier next up - charges filed - Page 7 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

ut2010 · 11-05-2011, 08:45 PM

8 known victims in a 15 year period. Wait. Know people high up at PSU lied to the grand jury but what?

**Needle77** · 11-05-2011, 08:50 PM

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Also, I could really get behind a death penalty for the PSU football program if this goes really deep. Not sure at what point do I go all out.

This is a tough one. I'm against death penalties for the most part as they don't usually effect those that did the damage. Whoever comes next had nothing to do with this situation and the kids, who will be punished the most out of this(wrt death penalty) have absolutely nothing to do with this.

ItsRainingMen · 11-05-2011, 08:53 PM

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This is a tough one. I'm against death penalties for the most part as they don't usually effect those that did the damage. Whoever comes next had nothing to do with this situation and the kids, who will be punished the most out of this(wrt death penalty) have absolutely nothing to do with this.

i wonder if the NCAA could or would do something where they explicitly say "every member associated must be fired or else x"

Loretta8 · 11-05-2011, 08:54 PM

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i wonder if the NCAA could or would do something where they explicitly say "every member associated must be fired or else x"

NCAA's got no authority here

**Needle77** · 11-05-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsRainingMen

i wonder if the NCAA could or would do something where they explicitly say "every member associated must be fired or else x"

Heh...I have no idea about the legal stuff. But I wouldn't hate if the NCAA said something like, "fire everyone...and we mean every mother****er there and we won't investigate. Leave one person...full investigation and death penalty possible, if not likely."

Edit: Loretta > me. Had no idea. This situation is ****ing irking me.

ItsRainingMen · 11-05-2011, 08:56 PM

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NCAA's got no authority here

i dunno, this seems like a pretty solid case for lack of institutional control

VayaConDios · 11-05-2011, 08:58 PM

If he'd bought the kid dinner after ****ing him then the NCAA would be all over this

Aytumious · 11-05-2011, 08:58 PM

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Well, Sandusky wasn't even coaching there anymore when that happened. What should JoePa have done? Despite his stature, there are still internal rules he has to follow.

Call the police and have them to talk to the witness?

**Needle77** · 11-05-2011, 08:59 PM

If the NCAA ends up doing nothing, whether they are allowed to or not, I'm going to be an even more bitter mother****er. I know thats not fair...but I really ****ing hate that organization with everything I am.

Loretta8 · 11-05-2011, 09:00 PM

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i dunno, this seems like a pretty solid case for lack of institutional control

thats only for stuff like improper benefits

theres nothing in the NCAA rule book about criminals afaik, I don't think they have any authority here.

Loretta8 · 11-05-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VayaConDios

If he'd bought the kid dinner after ****ing him then the NCAA would be all over this

lol, this

agdci981 · 11-05-2011, 09:04 PM

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People ITT have said it's illegal (and I believe them), but I don't think this guy really fits any definition of mens rea. He walked into a situation he was completely unprepared for, and went to the people he trusted most. It's really hard for me to hate him, with the information I have.

I see a ton of child abuse cases (probably about 1 a week) and my wife works with kids with the saddest stories ever. This GA is far from the worst you could do in this situation as far as witnesses go.

I highly doubt there is any mens rea requirement in regards to the Pennsylvania law surrounding reporting a sexual assault.

Loretta8 · 11-05-2011, 09:10 PM

I also think if you're going to punish Penn State it has to be the entire athletic department, not just the football team. Yes the diddler in question was a defensive coordinator but most of this stuff (including the shower incident) occurred after he was retired. Sandusky's gonna spend the rest of his life in jail, the other major offenders are the athletic director, guy in charge of campus police, school president, etc. Goes way beyond the football program.

gobbomom · 11-05-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Loretta8

I also think if you're going to punish Penn State it has to be the entire athletic department, not just the football team. Yes the diddler in question was a defensive coordinator but most of this stuff (including the shower incident) occurred after he was retired. Sandusky's gonna spend the rest of his life in jail, the other major offenders are the athletic director, guy in charge of campus police, school president, etc. Goes way beyond the football program.

and that's why this is gonna be huuuuge. Penn St. could be bankrupted by this, which will affect every single dept.

Steroid Boy · 11-05-2011, 09:24 PM

@SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
After all of that, in 2007, Paterno allowed Sandusky to bring 11 yr old boy, who he was raping at the time, to multiple practices.