From what I read, it sounded to me like they reported it, but gave the family the option as to whether or not they wanted to be involved. I imagine the investigation might not get very far if the child didn't want to testify, but at least the notification to CYS would have been made.

Here's that whole section of the article:

Washington Post columnist calling for Penn state to eliminate the football program.

Football in USA like hockey in Canada - where I recall a huge pedophile scandal just a few years ago.

People who keep flipping out at the posts Oski and I are making need to read more carefully and understand the arguments that are being made.

That said, I won't have a chance to listen to the Kim Jones interview, but based on what you all have said about it- it feels like it blows up one of my points about JoePa's statement- that it would be inexplicably dumb for him to come out and lie at this point.

The more that comes to light (actual evidence and not just random message board posters ability to soul-read), it sure seems like "inexplicably dumb" is a generous description of the behavior of everybody involved. I can't even imagine how PSU recovers from this if it turns out that people knew as much about this as is being suggested.

Jesus. This is just getting started.

How in the world has penn state's board not stepped in yet and at least put the president and paterno on leave. Cant wait to see the show at paternos presser today.

Not gonna happen, but I am thrilled that mainstream media is turning up the heat, even if ESPN is gonna just do the minimum and report only the (select) facts.

I haven't been happy with ESPN.com's coverage, but ESPN Radio really has covered this pretty extensively. Mike and Mike spent probably half of the show on it today, and had a guy from State College who completely went off on Paterno/McQuery and also had the chick from the Patriot News. They're not being as bad as they were a few days ago.

Dids - it's human nature and even a cursory review of the circumstances that led us to this point would lead one to the conclusion that JoePa would obviously like, coverup and deny til the bitter end. HE KNEW AND DID NOTHING TO STOP FUTURE RAPES for crying out loud. OF COURSE he's gonna deny and lie and try and save himself now. That's always been the case in big scandals - deny til the bitter end.

Especially when you are 100 years old, somewhat senile, and beloved by the entire fan base.

I just read that. It was an extreme perspective, but I found myself surprised that I even gave pause to consider it for a minute. I obviously don't think that will happen, especially at that school, but its mere proposal shows how serious this is.

Is the death penalty from the NCAA in any way a viable possibility? I mean I realize this wasn't a recruiting violation or something that technically affects play on the field, but this was a football program creating an atmosphere of ignorance so that children could be lured in and systematically raped by a monster. Unless there's something I'm not aware of, this has to clearly be the worst scandal in NCAA history.

It's certainly not clear what happened, and it's possible there was a miscommunication or that the mother is misremembering exactly what was said to her.

This:

just seems like a strange thing to say to the mother if the school intended to immediately report the abuse. As soon as they reported the abuse (which they were bound by law to do), the mother and the victim would have been interviewed by the police*. The mom and the son would not have had much choice at that point about getting involved.

* In theory anyway, assuming the police wouldn't have just ignored allegations against Sandusky for the third time

I mean if you think about it, he's basically freerolling. If he admits culpability in this, his reputation is forever tarnished and he's ruined. If he lies and squeaks away with it, he's earned a windfall. If he lies and gets caught, well, the crime he lied about is so heinous that adding lying to it is only marginal in the end.

That said, I still think he's a coward for refusing to address it and that if he has any sense of pride as a man, he should step down immediately. He's freerolling if he lies, sure, but that doesn't make it the right thing to do morally.

Then again, lol @ him taking the moral high road after everything we've read.

It's not even just Penn State U anymore. If the highschool reported the abuse, then even state officials are culpable.

Given the long pattern of abuse and the number of cases that's already come to light, I refuse to believe the state, not just PSU, officials didn't realize there was a dire situation in PSU.

lol at paterno having his hands tied

gmafb

if paterno wanted anyone excluded from football facilities it would have happened.

Stop being a moran.

I grew up in central PA near the shadow of Happy Valley. If Joe Paterno wanted a local home burned to the ground because the way it looked annoyed him, it would have been done the next day. Probably with the homeowner smiling next to it. His power was near unlimited in that town. You stop being a moran.

cant believe some of the posts itt yes kids can be cute but sex abuse crosses the line damn

All of that being said, it's certainly not clear that the school didn't want to report or that they were trying to persuade the mom and son to recant.

could the football program have been afraid of sandusky somehow ratting them out if they went to the cops? i'm just trying to think how they let this go on - we've already established that they made the wrong decision at every turn, it's hard to imagine that it was just because they didn't want to deal with it

That AD's attorney sounds MAD. JFC, she was basically screaming during that "press conference." STFU bitch and keep representing people that cover up 60 year olds raping 10 year olds.

They probably ignored it once and once they did so Sandusky had that on them.

The louder they are the more guilty they are.

I mean I'd hope it's also basic human nature to not be the sort of sociopath who covers up somebody raping little kids.

What I took issue with were people's rather absolute assumptions about what must have happened based on little evidence. I pointed out that there are some possible situations where what we heard from JoePA made sense and he wasn't a horrible monster. I still think that given what we knew at the time, there was evidence to support those possible explanations.

People acting like I was attempting to defend JoePa, or that I was being naive about what happened, both miss the point- which is mostly about not forming rigid points of view based only on assumptions about how people will act in a given situation.

yeah once they initially covered it up they'd look like complete **** if they ever did come forward later

Yeah, that part of the story is a bit ambiguous, but it seems to me they're just giving the family the option of having that child be involved or not. If the school reports the allegation, but the child (or his mother) refuses to be interviewed by the investigators for whatever reason - fear, embarrassment, etc. - then the school has done their legally required duty. The parent/student certainly has the right to refuse to cooperate with the authorities if they don't want to be involved.

*** Penn state, and *** Joe PA. They gave my dad a full ride in the late 70s to play quarterback. They came to visit him at school and he skipped that day ( to get stoned obv) and they revoked the scholarship. Ended up at poop rutgers instead. I hate Penn state and this news is despicable. Hope they rot in jail nittnany boy fckers