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I can easily see Joe snap passing on a complaint phrased that way to the people he believed to be responsible for following up on that sort of situation. He's a head college football coach and may not feel like the actions of a guy he pushed out years ago were something with which he should concern himself.

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11-06-2011 , 10:34 PM

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If the GA only reported it as vague inappropriate conduct then things are much different... is there any kind of record for this or is it he said he said? Why would he report anything at all if not saying he witnessed sexual assault? Seems more likely to me that he would not report rather than under report to this extent.

What the GA says he reported is covered in the Grand Jury doc-- he was specific. What the AD & Co. say they heard is also mentioned and the subject of a perjury filing against them. The recent press release is the first I can remember of Joe-Pa explaining what he thinks he heard (and it differs from the GA's version).

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11-06-2011 , 10:35 PM

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any chance they could be kicked out of the B1G?

Given that Baylor didn't get kicked out of the Big XII, I'm going to say no. Same goes for the death penalty.

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11-06-2011 , 10:35 PM

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don't bother

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11-06-2011 , 10:36 PM

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Please stop saying he did nothing, it's just not true.

I didn't say he did nothing. I said he got the vapors and left. Or as the report said, "...immediately left, distraught."

That's what he did, then called his parents. From his office (which I assume is in the same building). Did not call the police. Then went to his parents'.

The next day he reported it to JoePa, which is what I assume you mean, but that does not change the fact that when he actually witnessed the child being raped, he blanked.

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11-06-2011 , 10:38 PM

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Lots of attention on JoePa and the GA, and while I think they should have done more, it seems clear to me the AD and school execs are largely to blame for everything related to the cover up and inaction of the University.

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11-06-2011 , 10:38 PM

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Holliday,

I don't think anyone is saying that the kid didn't flake--though there is a lot of debate on whether the average person also flakes in that situation. It's not exactly what you expect to see in that situation, even when you hear sex noises.

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11-06-2011 , 10:38 PM

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I'll read the report now but sounds like he did even more than I thought. No more posting from me until I read it.

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11-06-2011 , 10:39 PM

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Sounds like some students are protesting at Old Main.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2011/11/06/penn_state_students_protest_alleged_sandusky_scand al_cover-up_at_old_man.aspx

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11-06-2011 , 10:40 PM

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ATA,

The story is that Joe pushed dude to retire in 99. He's not somebody who was under Joe's supervision when this occurred. Somebody comes to you with a vague accusation about a former employee- do you turn into Columbo or do you put the situation in the hands of the people responsible for that individual?

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11-06-2011 , 10:41 PM

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How about if it is happening in your locker room?

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11-06-2011 , 10:41 PM

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Sounds like some students are protesting at Old Main.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2011/11/06/penn_state_students_protest_alleged_sandusky_scand al_cover-up_at_old_man.aspx

Great to hear.

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11-06-2011 , 10:42 PM

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Sounds like some students are protesting at Old Main.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2011/11/06/penn_state_students_protest_alleged_sandusky_scand al_cover-up_at_old_man.aspx

I feel a modicum of relief reading this, if for no other reason that I find the Paterno worship excessive (irrespective of what happened here--he's just a football coach ffs).

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11-06-2011 , 10:43 PM

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Sounds like some students are protesting at Old Main.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2011/11/06/penn_state_students_protest_alleged_sandusky_scand al_cover-up_at_old_man.aspx

As I meant to indicate above, I'm curious if the BoT meeting is about a unified media strategy or calling folks to the carpet for hard questioning.

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11-06-2011 , 10:43 PM

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There is plenty of fail to go around. The GA didn't stop it or call the cops. Joe Pa was made aware of it and chose to not follow up. (IMO) The AD didn't call the police. I think the kid was worried about his job, Joe Pa was worried about his legacy and the AD was worried about both.

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11-06-2011 , 10:44 PM

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There is plenty of fail to go around.

Truest words in the thread so far imo.

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11-06-2011 , 10:45 PM

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OK, I'll say it. Why do you think he pushed the 30 year defensive coaching vet (evidently considered the creator of "Linebacker U") to retire at age 55?

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11-06-2011 , 10:48 PM

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Actually seeing someone have anal sex with a minor is not a vague accusation.

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11-06-2011 , 10:48 PM

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As I meant to indicate above, I'm curious if the BoT meeting is about a unified media strategy or calling folks to the carpet for hard questioning.

I suppose we'll find out tomorrow morning. Statement expected from Spanier as a result of tonight's meeting. I'm sure they'll **** it up.

http://twitter.com/#!/DailyCollegian/status/133374290883129344

Also, I totally agree RE: the students. That type of stuff makes me proud to be a Penn State grad.

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11-06-2011 , 10:48 PM

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His nose was too big? Who knows. I imagine we'll hear more about that in the future. Let's all jump to the worst conclusions instead tho.

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11-06-2011 , 10:49 PM

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His GA asked for and received a meeting at his home to discuss behavior the GA witnessed and found extremely troubling and he set up a meeting with the AD to appropriately elevate the concern. This happens without anyone asking the GA what it is that he witnessed.

Okay. I understand you can imagine this. It's an eye opener to me that that sounds credible to someone.

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11-06-2011 , 10:49 PM

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Actually seeing someone have anal sex with a minor is not a vague accusation.

The point is that per the statement, a vague accusation was all Joe had to go on.

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11-06-2011 , 10:50 PM

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11-06-2011 , 10:52 PM

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I think there's a middle ground between Columbo and passing the buck.

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