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11-06-2011 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
again, u guys dont understand how this **** works. BURDEN OF PROOF. destroy t he BURDEN OF PROOF and its like the problem didnt happen. which is 100% easier to deal with than accepting the truth. that is how ppl deal with **** and this is on a giant scale with goliath and state legends.
Well, bravo sir. You have rationalized a 28 year old man, former quarterback for Penn State, former NFL player, walking into a live kiddie rape in the team shower and getting the vapors. Two weeks later briefly met with AD where he was asked "for no specifics" such as the child's name (which he apparently knew) and then a week later told that the kiddie raper had been forced to hand over his keys to the shower. Then for eight years continued to see the kiddie raper bringing children around the program, And never figured that he should take any sort of burden upon himself.

Bumbled everything from the start.

Ah yes, within the administration, nobody ever even bothered to find out the child's name.
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11-06-2011 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
So are about 85 players, 20 coaches, tons of program alums, equipment staff, managers, etc. We don't know how close with the coaching staff Sandusky was on these trips.
Pretty sure most people would pick the guy they saw ass raping a 10 year old out of a crowd.

It was also the 30 year defensive coordinator, who McQueary knew perfectly well enough.
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11-06-2011 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
Well, bravo sir. You have rationalized a 28 year old man, former quarterback for Penn State, former NFL player, walking into a live kiddie rape in the team shower and getting the vapors. Two weeks later briefly met with AD where he was asked "for no specifics" such as the child's name (which he apparently knew) and then a week later told that the kiddie raper had been forced to hand over his keys to the shower. Then for eight years continued to see the kiddie raper bringing children around the program, And never figured that he should take any sort of burden upon himself.

Bumbled everything from the start.

Ah yes, within the administration, nobody ever even bothered to find out the child's name.
Yes, now we can say he bumbled it. But honestly, even though you can type you'd do something different in his shoes, it's not as easy as you may think.

Also, would you please stop using sensationalistic language to prove your point. We get it, you feel strongly about it.
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11-06-2011 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Triumph36
obviously the dude wouldn't've been fired right away, but it's not hard to see a situation where, if he had called the cops and this had blown up, the guy is ostracized and continually passed over and eventually leaves.
Worse for him, I think, is if he had called the cops and the University successfully covers it all up. Which was a distinct possibility since the cops had already investigated Sandusky in 1998 and nothing came of it.
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11-06-2011 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
or how about, ya kno, actually stopping the rape. i mean, its a 60+ yr old naked dude, surely he coulda put a stop to it.
can't believe it took this long for someone to point this out. it's curbstomping time the second you see that ****, or at the very least, the second you get over the initial shock. Walking away from a defenseless kid getting ass****ed is unreal to me.
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11-06-2011 , 05:25 PM
nah dawg you gotta look out for your career path, far more important than stopping kids from being raped
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11-06-2011 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kyleb
nah dawg you gotta look out for your career path, far more important than stopping kids from being raped
Reporting a pedo to the police is apparently much more difficult than we think.
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11-06-2011 , 05:27 PM
He reported it to Paterno, who has more power than the police.
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11-06-2011 , 05:28 PM
I give the grad assistant a C-minus for his first reaction. You see a kid getting raped, then you have to rise above any instincts you have towards political self-preservation. That said, he did tell someone else about it within minutes (his dad, who gave him terrible advice and also failed miserably), and he was telling his ultimate superior Paterno about it the next morning.

But for the months and years afterwards, this grad student gets downgraded to a unequivocal F. Once it was clear that nothing was going to be done (because, um, nothing was being done, and because he still saw the scummy pedophile all the time, conspicuously in the company of kids, then like it or not, you have to step up again and stop the rapist. Kids getting raped trumps everything else; the grad student didn't ask to be put in this situation but tough luck, it happened, and he failed, and he's going to have to live with that.

Obviously Paterno and AD get an F from day one. Sucks that they're friends with the guy, but life isn't fair, get over it. They're in charge, they're accountable. And the whole thing is going to seem a a lot worse when more victims surface. Sandusky ran his own ****ing escort service disguised as a charity. So gross.

I don't want to taint my own argument by suggesting that there is a solid 1 part in 10,000 of me that feels sorry for Sandusky, he lost the genetic lottery and was having to deal with urges and compulsions that thankfully the rest of us will never have to understand. But that said, the other 9,999 parts of me hope that Sandusky gets what's coming to him at prison, pun intended.

I hope most of these guys are legally exposed here. I don't think PSU as a program should get the death penalty though.
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11-06-2011 , 05:29 PM
Yeah man he reported it to Paterno. He's like the police chief or some ****. Paterno's in charge of the SVU department I think.

ETA: Obviously you can't count on a guy seeing a 10 year old boy being raped to have any sort of reasonable range of reactions. Him walking out and being totally dismayed is understandable; it's a ridiculous situation that no one really knows how they'll react if they end up in it. But the decisions afterwards were completely inexcusable. "His career should not suffer" is the biggest LOL I have ever heard; have you considered that maybe working for known child rapists where you participated in (or know of) a cover-up makes you one of the worst human beings on the planet? Is your career worth that?
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11-06-2011 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
He reported it to Paterno, who has more power than the police.
Oh, so you've been trolling.

Makes a lot more sense, just a pretty questionable topic to do it on.
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11-06-2011 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
Yes, now we can say he bumbled it. But honestly, even though you can type you'd do something different in his shoes, it's not as easy as you may think.

Also, would you please stop using sensationalistic language to prove your point. We get it, you feel strongly about it.
Given the number of people who have come along and said "fondling" or "touching" no, I'll keep using the sensationalistic language due to it's notable quality of being accurate. Maybe you just have a problem toning this down in your mind.

FWIW I never typed anything about Ginger putting a beat down on him, only something like he could "end the assault" which seems 100% plausible for a former trying-to-make-a-NFL-roster quarterback. And, yes, there is no scenario where I would go into shock, retreat from the assault, go call my father from my office, and then completely run from the campus to my parents' house. At some point you have to become Butch from Pulp Fiction and go back because you are not a complete and total loser at life.
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11-06-2011 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
He reported it to Paterno, who has more power than the police.
He's like the Judge Dredd of PA.
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11-06-2011 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NozeCandy
Not all orphans. One of the boys' mom noticed that her son's hair was wet when he got dropped off at home, when she questioned him about it he said that Sandusky and he showered together and they hugged or something. She confronted Sandusky about it and tried to get him to promise to never shower with boys again. Seriously.
Where the **** are people's brains?
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11-06-2011 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilvre
Where the **** are people's brains?
In her defense the meth had probably eaten away most of her brain by then.
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11-06-2011 , 05:43 PM
lol "please don't shower with my son again sir"

Jesus some people are just pathetic
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11-06-2011 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
Oh, so you've been trolling.

Makes a lot more sense, just a pretty questionable topic to do it on.
Look, the crimes are awful. I really hope that if it were me walking in on that, I'd have the mental/emotional stability to go to the police or whatever got that man behind bars. But on the other hand, I don't think it's so implausible to think that McQueary's actions were right in his mind. I can also foresee a scenario where someone would try to just erase that incident from their mind.

It's pretty funny how the keyboard cowboys in this thread can 100% say with confidence that they'd bash Sandusky's skull in. I have never been in a scenario like that and I doubt others have. It's just different.
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11-06-2011 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Davis
I'm fine with him not getting involved in the situation right there, the damage is already done and he doesn't have to put himself in jeopardy to stop this crime,
your post is decent, but **** this noise. Yeah, if dude is toting a gun or is just physically much tougher than you and you'd be walking into an ass-raping of your own, sure. But it's some 60 year old ****. You go in the athletic supplies closet, you grab a bat, and you kill the guy.
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11-06-2011 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
your post is decent, but **** this noise. Yeah, if dude is toting a gun or is just physically much tougher than you and you'd be walking into an ass-raping of your own, sure. But it's some 60 year old ****. You go in the athletic supplies closet, you grab a bat, and you kill the guy.
And then you spend the rest of your life in jail. I know you fancy yourself as some vigilante superhero, but you're not Batman.
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11-06-2011 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Triumph36
I'd like to think that I would call the police, but I'm not a graduate assistant working at Penn State, so I can't say. If it's my dream to work at Penn State? I don't know. People have done a lot worse for a lot less. Why should my future be put in jeopardy by something someone else did that had nothing to do with me?
id like to think i break it up. there is no way i dont call the cops. i can see why ppl wouldnt, but i think such inaction should be judged harshly in society, not necessarily by law tho.
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11-06-2011 , 05:52 PM
i was being a bit over-dramatic and facetious obv. can't slip one past you though
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11-06-2011 , 05:53 PM
Ya, I get the people saying "Who knows what you'll do, you might be nervous/scared/confused and not fight him".. sure ok.

But to not be sure you'd call the cops gtfo

You deserve criminal charges for not calling the police.
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11-06-2011 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Triumph36
I'd like to think that I would call the police, but I'm not a graduate assistant working at Penn State, so I can't say. If it's my dream to work at Penn State? I don't know. People have done a lot worse for a lot less. Why should my future be put in jeopardy by something someone else did that had nothing to do with me?
wow, what? I would never be able to live with myself if I saw this and did nothing about it, just to keep or get a job.
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11-06-2011 , 05:54 PM
Are you saying you have the morals to not work for or with a homosexual child rapist that you personally saw, and that you wouldn't participate in a cover-up to save him?

What are you, some sort of naive bible thumper? GTFO. A man should be free to work for/with child rapists if it's his dream job. There's nothing wrong with that.
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11-06-2011 , 05:55 PM
Seriously I could walk in on my dad and Drew Brees double teaming some boy and I would still insta call the cops.
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