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11-09-2011 , 09:02 PM
Hahaha yeah I was just saying that, Tressel and Pete Carroll have to be lol'ing right about now
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11-09-2011 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JaredL
I will give credit to the ESPN radio local guy on now that is saying some good anti-Joe Pa and coaching staff stuff.
yeah. He was on ESPN Chicago last night with Jarret Payton and Hood. He sounded like an outraged/betrayed fan, which hit exactly right. Payton and Hood suggested PSU shouldn't play anymore this season.

Payton was especially shook up as JoePa came to his home to recruit him and the character of PSU was the strong selling point.
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11-09-2011 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BK1248
I love how Pryor and Tressell were run out of town for trading jerseys for tattoo's like it is is some big crime, but the NCAA isnt stepping up to have this pedophile protector fired.

NCAA is the worst, modern day slavery and now pro-pedophile as long as the $ keeps rolling in.
**** has been public for less than a week. Relax
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11-09-2011 , 09:05 PM
msnbc says "breaking news board of trustees had emergency meeting" reports spanier out and ex gov tom ridge might be his replacement
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11-09-2011 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by allinontheturn
If this happened in ancient Japan quite a few people involved in this would have committed hara-kiri by now.
**** ancient Japan -- the Tatenokai incident was during Paterno's tenure!
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11-09-2011 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
He has served on national boards such as: the Board of Directors of the National Association of State Universities and Land-Grant Colleges, deputy chair of the Worldwide Universities Network, the Board of Directors and a founding member of the University Corporation for Advanced Internet Development, and chair of the Kellogg Commission on the Future of State and Land-Grant Universities.

He has also held leadership roles in other organizations, such as: president of the National Council on Family Relations chairman of the Board of Directors of the Christian Children's Fund, chair of the NCAA Division I Board of Directors, and Board of Trustees of the National 4-H Council...

...As a family sociologist, demographer, and marriage and family therapist, he was the founding editor of the Journal of Family Issues. Spanier was also an author of a study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior concerning the practice of mate swapping, or "swinging".

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Spanier's annual salary, currently set at $545,016, is determined by a sub-committee of the University Board of Trustees. His compensation is ranked third among his peers at surveyed public universities nationwide.

he's also a big anti-file sharing guy.
Yeah. I know you are are honest and everything, so I'll bet the first person you thought of when the story broke was Graham Spanier.

I can't believe what a freakin' joke you are.
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11-09-2011 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
**** has been public for less than a week. Relax
well hes gonna coach saturday as of now and get a hero's farewell like sandusky did in 98 or 99
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11-09-2011 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by anatta
msnbc says "breaking news board of trustees had emergency meeting" reports spanier out and ex gov and FairPlayUSA Board of Advisors member tom ridge might be his replacement
FYP
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11-09-2011 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Aloysius
72 - good info, man, I can't imagine some of these organizations keeping Spanier on...

And missed what Oski said - not sure why he's referring to Spanier as a "nobody" - he's not only the President of Penn State but also a member of the school's Board of Trustees. Having him fired is kind of a big deal. One could argue a much bigger deal than forcing Paterno out.
I must have missed the pep rallys outside of Spanier's house, "Save Spanier."

Spanier is a "nobody" as far as the public takes this story. As far as anyone higher up in a huge university, they are not literally "nobodies," but they may as well be "Mr. X" for all anyone cares.

It is certainly clear that the proper thing was not done per University protocol. The law even requires reporting. That did not happen and Spanier sits on the whole mess.

More than enough to show him the door. Paterno's situation is not so clear and relies on a lot of first-person accounts which to this point seem contradictory.

Don't blame the messenger guys. I am just speculating on why certain things can be done right away and why others must wait.

If you (not meaning Al) want to make me look like an idiot, there are much easier spots for that.
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11-09-2011 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NegativeZero
Interesting article from si.com that considers the distinct possibility of criminal charges against Paterno.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...rno/index.html
All speculation intended to arouse those on both sides of the issue at this point. Nothing more. The GJ presentment is not clear to any degree regarding what McQueary actually testified to in terms of what he told Joe. It doesn't say he told Joe he saw Sandusky having anal sex with a child. It simply says something to the effect of he told him "what he saw."

There is absolutely no indication in the GJ findings or anything said by the AG indicative of a concern over the possibility of perjured testimony from Joe or anyone else other than Curley and the VP at this point. As a matter of fact, the AG has specifically indicated that Joe isn't a target of the investigation. Why should that little piece of information stop this guy from writing this piece amirite?

Nothing like a piece of "journalism" designed to do nothing more than evoke an emotional response from the reader in order to generate buzz. Bravo.

Last edited by Bdidd; 11-09-2011 at 09:35 PM. Reason: Changed" Spanier" to the "VP" when I realized the error
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11-09-2011 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
Yeah. I know you are are honest and everything, so I'll bet the first person you thought of when the story broke was Graham Spanier.

I can't believe what a freakin' joke you are.
whoa, calm down, bro!

i was just looking into who this guy is, bc like you said he's a nobody as far as the public is concerned (and i obv didn't know anything about him). i had no intention of attacking you or engaging Oskitilt mode. i wouldn't wish that [censored] upon my worst enemy.
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11-09-2011 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
whoa, calm down, bro!

i was just looking into who this guy is, bc like you said he's a nobody as far as the public is concerned (and i obv didn't know anything about him). i had no intention of attacking you or engaging Oskitilt mode. i wouldn't wish that [censored] upon my worst enemy.
Yeah right. Just the fact you had to freakin' look him up on Wikipedia proves my point. I know exactly what you are trying to do:

Just a little green man taking potshots.
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11-09-2011 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
I must have missed the pep rallys outside of Spanier's house, "Save Spanier."

Spanier is a "nobody" as far as the public takes this story. As far as anyone higher up in a huge university, they are not literally "nobodies," but they may as well be "Mr. X" for all anyone cares.

It is certainly clear that the proper thing was not done per University protocol. The law even requires reporting. That did not happen and Spanier sits on the whole mess.

More than enough to show him the door. Paterno's situation is not so clear and relies on a lot of first-person accounts which to this point seem contradictory.

Don't blame the messenger guys. I am just speculating on why certain things can be done right away and why others must wait.

If you (not meaning Al) want to make me look like an idiot, there are much easier spots for that.
What you're saying makes sense. Anyway Spanier is a big enough firing (should it go down tonight) that it will satisfy the public's bloodlust for now, I would imagine... (it would satisfy mine)...

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Originally Posted by Bdidd
All speculation intended to arouse those on both sides of the issue at this point. Nothing more. The GJ presentment is not clear to any degree regarding what McQueary actually testified to in terms of what he told Joe. It doesn't say he told Joe he saw Sandusky having anal sex with a child. It simply says something to the effect of he told him "what he saw."

There is absolutely no indication in the GJ findings or anything said by the AG indicative of a concern over the possibility of perjured testimony from Joe or anyone else other than Curley and Spanier at this point. As a matter of fact, the AG has specifically indicated that Joe isn't a target of the investigation. Why should that little piece of information stop this guy from writing this piece amirite?

Nothing like a piece of "journalism" designed to do nothing more than evoke an emotional response from the reader in order to generate buzz. Bravo.
I thought that the article was fairly even in discussing the possibility of Paterno being charged with a crime. As you said, there's still a lot we don't know w/r/t McQueary and Paterno's testimony. And their respective testimonies do seem to conflict (suggesting someone's lying, suggesting perjury, which is a crime).
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11-09-2011 , 09:26 PM
i'm about as cynical a person as you can find but this situation still impresses me. joe paterno knows that a person he works with is raping kids and does not do what he has to do to stop it. this guy has to face criminal charges. the really wild part about this is that this is NOT an issue of legal technicalities... its voluntary that he hasn't been immediately fired and people still like him. this is just blowing my mind.

what do you think they will say in nebraska's locker room before the game. "Come on guys let's get out out there and crush that team of rapists. Do it for the children!"
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11-09-2011 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bills217
Todd Blackledge just became the first media member I have heard actually say Paterno SHOULD coach Saturday. Not even Millen would say that explicitly.

Of course he may be biased.
I thought Millen wanted Paterno to go?
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11-09-2011 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
Yeah right. Just the fact you had to freakin' look him up on Wikipedia proves my point. I know exactly what you are trying to do:

Just a little green man taking potshots.
wtf are you even talking about? i just admitted that i agreed, he's a "nobody" as far as the public is concerned. i just said that i basically knew nothing about him, and yes, had to look him up on wiki to get that information.

what the hell is going on here, i'm not about to be drawn into some feud like with Mic.roB.ob. I'M NOT EVEN ARGUING WITH YOU!!!
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11-09-2011 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sayid_the_saviour
i'm about as cynical a person as you can find but this situation still impresses me. joe paterno knows that a person he works with is raping kids and does not do what he has to do to stop it. this guy has to face criminal charges. the really wild part about this is that this is NOT an issue of legal technicalities... its voluntary that he hasn't been immediately fired and people still like him. this is just blowing my mind.
Well then, go back in time and create a law so that you can prosecute Joe Paterno today.
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11-09-2011 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NapoleonInRags
Basically, the death penalty is the only solution.

Dereliction doesn't even begin to describe the program.

I think a 20 year death penalty would be fair.

Defiling kids just isn't ok, despite what those at Penn St. think.

Deification of Joe Pa brought the program down.





Make an example of them.

A safe haven for pedophiles is unacceptable.

Diddling kids isn't the primary purpose of a university.
**** like the bolded above takes the wind out of any point you are trying to make in the post IMO. You paint with a ridiculously broad brush and its bull****.

Here is a news flash for you. Despite your bloodlust for the university and anyone whatsoever connected to it, there are plenty of good people who work at the school and go to school there. That place has enriched the lives of countless people over the years. Those same people had absolutely nothing to do with this tragedy. Comments like the bolded are untrue and shameful.
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11-09-2011 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
wtf are you even talking about? i just admitted that i agreed, he's a "nobody" as far as the public is concerned. i just said that i basically knew nothing about him, and yes, had to look him up on wiki to get that information.

what the hell is going on here, i'm not about to be drawn into some feud like with Mic.roB.ob. I'M NOT EVEN ARGUING WITH YOU!!!
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Stop already. If you don't want a fight, don't start one.

Last edited by Oski; 11-09-2011 at 09:34 PM. Reason: One-Dollar Tipper wants to mix it up?
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11-09-2011 , 09:34 PM
what the i don't even

ok, i'll get out of your thread, bro.

Last edited by 72off; 11-09-2011 at 09:34 PM. Reason: i still have no idea what you think i'm doing, btw
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11-09-2011 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
whoa, calm down, bro!

I AM CALM!


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I'M NOT EVEN ARGUING WITH YOU!!!
YES YOU ARE!

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what the i don't even

ok, i'll get out of your thread, bro.
That's right, run away little man.

(I have no idea what is going on either.)
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11-09-2011 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
Well then, go back in time and create a law so that you can prosecute Joe Paterno today.
It doesn't matter as much whether he faces criminal charges. Why doesn't one of the parents of the raped kids kill the raper and Paterno?
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11-09-2011 , 09:40 PM
Chill Oski, this sucks enough without your polilegaltarding. Tia. Huggs.
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11-09-2011 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
Well then, go back in time and create a law so that you can prosecute Joe Paterno today.
Obstruction of justice. Unclear on statute of limitations but what a way to skate out of prison time.
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11-09-2011 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NegativeZero
PSU needs to demonstrate that football is of lesser importance. They could do that several ways, but have not as of yet.

The players are also victims to some degree regardless if any games are missed.

NCAA frequently hands out punishment to programs whose current players had nothing to do with the cited offenses.
Doesnt the NCAA punishment come down to if they were protecting him because:
- He was a former friend, etc.
Or
- to protect recruiting

There isn't really an on the field gain from this.
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