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View Poll Results: Who will prevail?
Phils in 3
36 36.36%
Phils in 4
32 32.32%
Phils in 5
3 3.03%
Reds in 3
4 4.04%
Reds in 4
12 12.12%
Reds in 5
12 12.12%

10-03-2010 , 10:07 PM
Philadelphia: 97-65
Cincinnati: 91-71

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10-03-2010 , 10:09 PM
Awesome OP.

Can't wait till Wednesday. NLDS is always nerve wracking because obv anything can happen in a 5 game series.

The homer in me says Halladay + Oswalt + Hamels + the Phillies lineup against three RHP = get the brooms out. Phils in 3.
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10-03-2010 , 10:12 PM
I know the reds have been a nice team this year but I dont see how the phils dont sweep them
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10-03-2010 , 10:17 PM
I see the Phils in 4. I'd like to call a sweep, but I never can when two solid teams meet in the playoffs. Though the Reds starting 3 straight righties is pretty lol against the Phils.
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10-03-2010 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jmussina
I see the Phils in 4. I'd like to call a sweep, but I never can when two solid teams meet in the playoffs. Though the Reds starting 3 straight righties is pretty lol against the Phils.
I don't get it, isn't that the only realistic option for the Reds, or am I missing something?
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10-03-2010 , 10:28 PM
Oh, and Reds in 4. Welcome to the crapshoot that is MLB Playoffs.
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10-03-2010 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jmussina
I see the Phils in 4. I'd like to call a sweep, but I never can when two solid teams meet in the playoffs. Though the Reds starting 3 straight righties is pretty lol against the Phils.


Same. I really think the Phils have a pretty good shot at the sweep, but the Reds are a good team and I can't say that they won't pull out a win by getting a starter out on a high pitch count or something, and then having Charlie put in Baez or the ****ty version of Contreras or some such nonsense.


Also, my OP just about guarantees that posting in this thread from my phone is going to be a pain in the ass. But still worth it.
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10-03-2010 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
Oh, and Reds in 4. Welcome to the crapshoot that is MLB Playoffs.
Go back to the Atl/SF thread where you proclaim the winner of that series will make the World Series.
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10-03-2010 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EricLindros
Go back to the Atl/SF thread where you proclaim the winner of that series will make the World Series.
No proclamation...I said I'm pretty sure.
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10-03-2010 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
I don't get it, isn't that the only realistic option for the Reds, or am I missing something?
they should start chapman ldo
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10-03-2010 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
I don't get it, isn't that the only realistic option for the Reds, or am I missing something?
They have Wood, who had an ok year. But he pitched really well when he faced the Phils this year, held a perfect game into the 9th. The Phillies have struggled at times this year against lefties, so to not use one is kind of head scratching. I posted all of this already in the Phils' thread, but this is obviously a different thread.
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10-03-2010 , 11:02 PM
Best series OP I can remember. Steroid Boy would be proud.
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10-03-2010 , 11:03 PM
Looks like a standard sweep to me.
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10-03-2010 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
Oh, and Reds in 4. Welcome to the crapshoot that is MLB Playoffs.
GTFO....

The NL hasn't been a crapshoot for a few years.

2008 NLDS 3-1 series
2008 NLCS 4-1 series

2009 NLDS 3-1 series
2000 NLCS 4-1 series

The Phillies have been AND CONTINUE to be the class of the league.

This is another 3-1 or 3-0 series. It's Doc, Oswalt, Hamels, Doc, Oswalt (4/5 if nec) ALL ON FULL REST.

Also, you CAN'T be serious to think ATL wins the NL ("winner of SF/ATL") goes to the WS??? After the last 6 games we just played ATL???

Actually, don't answer that....don't make another appearance in this thread. You made your prediction....now stay out.

It's cool to love your team and be a homer...but stop making ridic statements. This is like the 4th one on 2 weeks. Enough.
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10-03-2010 , 11:09 PM
Reds is 1.6 games

Maybe 2 because of variance
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10-03-2010 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
GTFO....

The NL hasn't been a crapshoot for a few years.

2008 NLDS 3-1 series
2008 NLCS 4-1 series

2009 NLDS 3-1 series
2000 NLCS 4-1 series

The Phillies have been AND CONTINUE to be the class of the league.

This is another 3-1 or 3-0 series. It's Doc, Oswalt, Hamels, Doc, Oswalt (4/5 if nec) ALL ON FULL REST.

Also, you CAN'T be serious to think ATL wins the NL ("winner of SF/ATL") goes to the WS??? After the last 6 games we just played ATL???

Actually, don't answer that....don't make another appearance in this thread. You made your prediction....now stay out.

It's cool to love your team and be a homer...but stop making ridic statements. This is like the 4th one on 2 weeks. Enough.
It's not the team, it's the format. Furthermore, I stand by what I said. The Giants matchup very well against the Phillies, if they get past the Braves. The Braves are a lot closer to the Phils than the last 6 games would indicate (even now with our 2 best offensive players out for the rest of the year). If you can't understand that you either a) did not watch the games or b) are high. It's the MLB playoffs ffs. You act like winning an NLDS 3-1 is a dominating performance. That's a hit or walk or error or whatever away from being a 5 game series nearly every time. You act like your team is incapable of losing 3 out of 5 games or 4 out of 7 games vs the other best of the NL. There are so many classic examples of the favorites falling (and falling hard) in the playoffs in the past 20 years I've been watching baseball (and no need for Braves jokes/references).

Last edited by tdomeski; 10-03-2010 at 11:33 PM.
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10-03-2010 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
It's not the team, it's the format.
The Reds don't get a single check mark on the "tale of the tape" in this series. Not one. They scored 18 more runs over 162 games but would anyone say their off is better than Philly? Of course not. They got to play Mil and Pitt 38 times....they are two of 4 teams in MLB to give up 800 runs this year.

Oswalt, Hallday and Hamels have all been throwing on 5 days rest for the last month and will have that or MORE coming into this series. They won't have tired arms.

Plus....we all know how well Philly runs.....we'll luckbox at least 4 wins in this series.
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10-03-2010 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
It's not the team, it's the format. Furthermore, I stand by what I said. The Giants matchup very well against the Phillies, if they get past the Braves. The Braves are a lot closer to the Phils than the last 6 games would indicate (even now with our 2 best offensive players out for the rest of the year). If you can't understand that you either a) did not watch the games or b) are high. It's the MLB playoffs ffs. You act like winning an NLDS 3-1 is a dominating performance. That's a hit or walk or error or whatever away from being a 5 game series nearly every time. You act like your team is incapable of losing 3 out of 5 games or 4 out of 7 games vs the other best of the NL. There are so many classic examples of the favorites falling (and falling hard) in the playoffs in the past 20 years I've been watching baseball (and no need for Braves jokes/references).
We are ABSOLUTELY capable of losing 3/5 or 4/7....but you don't present a single fact as to why....except 5 game series being a "crapshoot". At the same time, there's been like ONE 5 game series in MLB since 2004. We've seen ONE "anything can happen in game 5". That's one of 24 series....

I watched every inning of the sweep in Philly and was at the Tues game. That was play-off baseball/close games. Atl scored 4 runs in 3 games and pitch at the absolute apex of their abilities....and got swept.

This series was an embarrassment. You lose to Kendrick and Worely. How exactly were those 2 games close? If anything the 11-5 game was worse than that. The Braves got 3 runs in the 9th that won't be pitching again in 2010. Today they scored 4 runs off another guy that won't be throwing a single meaningful inning this postseason...and scratched out an 8-7 win.
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10-03-2010 , 11:51 PM
Pippen33 you are leveling me, right? You have to be...this is insane.
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10-03-2010 , 11:56 PM
As a massive reds fan. They will not win this series. The analaysis has been great however. I prefer to face phils now though...from a gamblers perspective
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10-03-2010 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
Pippen33 you are leveling me, right? You have to be...this is insane.
Dude...I swear I'm not. ATL doesn't scare me at all. Not a little bit. The last 2 weeks have solidified that

You say they are a lot closer to the Phils than the last 6 games would indicate. That's just not the case...sorry, it's not. Listen, I'm not saying it's a lock that we beat them....of course not. I'm just saying what you said just isn't true.

This obv doesn't tell the whole story...but it's def a strike against the theory.

game 1 - Atl led for exactly half an inning.
game 2 - Atl never lead
game 3 - see game 2
game 4 - see game 2 and 3
game 5 - see game 2, 3 and 5
game 6 - Atl trailed and only got the lead (then barely keeping it) by scoring 4 runs off Danys Baes...who won't pitch in any game that we aren't up by 5 or down by 5 in.

So yeah...."They are who we thought they were"

Let's just drop it and cross that bridge when we get to it...

Please please please god let us get to it.

Last edited by Pippen33; 10-04-2010 at 12:05 AM.
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10-04-2010 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
Dude...I swear I'm not. ATL doesn't scare me at all. Not a little bit. The last 2 weeks have solidified that

Let's just drop it and cross that bridge when we get to it...
I want an ATL-PHI NLCS so bad. It's BY FAR the most compelling matchup. Although we wouldn't get maximum tilt from the Giants homers if they lose in the first round.
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10-04-2010 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
Dude...I swear I'm not. ATL doesn't scare me at all. Not a little bit. The last 2 weeks have solidified that

Let's just drop it and cross that bridge when we get to it...

Please please please god let us get to it.
I am not talking about the Atlanta Braves. I am talking about how you are using 24 series sample sizes as some sort of rationale that the NLDS isn't a crapshoot. I am talking about how you are implying that extra rest for two pitchers that are absolutely peaking at this point of the season is an undeniably good thing for them. I am talking about how you reference Braves runs scored on pitchers that won't pitch again in the postseason as meaningless, yet fail to remember the Phillies winning 3 of the past 6 games vs. the Braves 7th and 8th starters (you got him twice!).

Cliffs: Don't show your work next time you put the answer, it's only hindering the cause.
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10-04-2010 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
It's not the team, it's the format. Furthermore, I stand by what I said. The Giants matchup very well against the Phillies, if they get past the Braves. The Braves are a lot closer to the Phils than the last 6 games would indicate (even now with our 2 best offensive players out for the rest of the year). If you can't understand that you either a) did not watch the games or b) are high. It's the MLB playoffs ffs. You act like winning an NLDS 3-1 is a dominating performance. That's a hit or walk or error or whatever away from being a 5 game series nearly every time. You act like your team is incapable of losing 3 out of 5 games or 4 out of 7 games vs the other best of the NL. There are so many classic examples of the favorites falling (and falling hard) in the playoffs in the past 20 years I've been watching baseball (and no need for Braves jokes/references).
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
Dude...I swear I'm not. ATL doesn't scare me at all. Not a little bit. The last 2 weeks have solidified that

You say they are a lot closer to the Phils than the last 6 games would indicate. That's just not the case...sorry, it's not. Listen, I'm not saying it's a lock that we beat them....of course not. I'm just saying what you said just isn't true.

This obv doesn't tell the whole story...but it's def a strike against the theory.

game 1 - Atl led for exactly half an inning.
game 2 - Atl never lead
game 3 - see game 2
game 4 - see game 2 and 3
game 5 - see game 2, 3 and 5
game 6 - Atl trailed and only got the lead (then barely keeping it) by scoring 4 runs off Danys Baes...who won't pitch in any game that we aren't up by 5 or down by 5 in.

So yeah...."They are who we thought they were"


Let's just drop it and cross that bridge when we get to it...

Please please please god let us get to it.
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
I am not talking about the Atlanta Braves. I am talking about how you are using 24 series sample sizes as some sort of rationale that the NLDS isn't a crapshoot. I am talking about how you are implying that extra rest for two pitchers that are absolutely peaking at this point of the season is an undeniably good thing for them. I am talking about how you reference Braves runs scored on pitchers that won't pitch again in the postseason as meaningless, yet fail to remember the Phillies winning 3 of the past 6 games vs. the Braves 7th and 8th starters (you got him twice!).

Cliffs: Don't show your work next time you put the answer, it's only hindering the cause
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you got me....you got me....
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10-04-2010 , 12:15 AM
Sigh, you still don't get it. Good luck in the NLDS, brother.
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