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08-29-2016 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazuya
How is McDavid not even top 50 EA sports?
well he's no John Carlson!
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08-31-2016 , 12:31 PM


Phil Kessel Subban!
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08-31-2016 , 09:01 PM
Weber at 94 is unbelievably bad. Hard to believe that's not a joke or something.


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09-01-2016 , 07:19 PM
Kopitaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
Spoiler:
Hat trick in Olympic qualifying for Slovenia
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09-01-2016 , 07:32 PM
We beat Japan 5-0

Only Austria and Latvia left fml
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09-04-2016 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NhlNut
Kopitaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
Spoiler:
Hat trick in Olympic qualifying for Slovenia
Slovenia in again!!
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09-04-2016 , 03:26 PM
Germany too!
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09-04-2016 , 06:39 PM
09-04-2016 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by switch0723
Slovenia in again!!
i mean, it's not like he'll be there in 2018, so who cares?

but kool that's he's gonna play at least 6 games before the season kicks off here
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09-04-2016 , 10:13 PM
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Phil Kessel Subban!
To bad he wasn't traded to the pens. No chance for a cup for PK Subban this year.
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09-05-2016 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 72off
i mean, it's not like he'll be there in 2018, so who cares?

but kool that's he's gonna play at least 6 games before the season kicks off here
brother kopitarrrrrgh and papa kopitarrrrgh tho
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09-05-2016 , 02:35 PM
didn't papa cut brother from the team last time around, or was that in 2010?

also thought Papa got fired at some point or something
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09-06-2016 , 12:59 AM
THE 23 MINUTES THAT SHOOK THE HOCKEY WORLD

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2:54 p.m.: Montreal, Nashville swap all-star defencemen

Nick Kypreos, who broke this trade on his Twitter feed, said rumours of a Subban move intensified after Montreal’s 3-2 loss in Colorado on Feb. 17. The defenceman, trying to make something happen as the season spiralled out of control, was stripped of the puck near the Avalanche blue line by Mikhail Grigorenko with 2:10 remaining in regulation.

Seven seconds later, Jarome Iginla scored the winning goal. Montreal Head coach Michel Therrien did not hide his displeasure, benching Subban for the last two shifts and singling out the mistake to reporters.
traded subban because pacioretty didnt cover his man. smart front office we got here.

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09-06-2016 , 06:32 AM
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didn't papa cut brother from the team last time around, or was that in 2010?

also thought Papa got fired at some point or something
I dunno, I don't follow the Slovenian hockey team outside of reading they have qualified
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09-06-2016 , 02:01 PM
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traded subban because pacioretty didnt cover his man. smart front office we got here.
lol...

Like not blaming the player who initiate the error that made the second happened is the way to see the situation...


btw,
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/...id=mailsignout

Price : ""I was shocked like everyone else. But I had an idea that it was possible," Price said. "The way our game is structured and the way P.K. plays … we’re headed in a different direction.

P.K. is an offensive defenseman and a risk-taker," he continued. "That’s made him successful, that’s the way he plays the game. He doesn’t want to change that and I respect that. I respect the way that he plays the game ".



This is exactly what your video shows btw.



And yeah, i trust Price opinion a bit more...
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09-06-2016 , 02:08 PM
Lol because Price will obviously say that the guy they traded for is worse than the guy they traded away if that's his opinion

It's an awful trade and might be worse than the Seguin trade. Your GM and coach are both morons, deal with it.
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09-06-2016 , 02:11 PM
not a lot of teams finding success playing as risk-adverse [redacted]s afaik, but gl with that
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09-06-2016 , 02:29 PM
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“We were 10-0 in October,” one said. “If that continues, is P.K. in Nashville?”
gee i wonder what changed
(Carey Price got hurt in October, then again in November, and hasn't played a hockey game since)

anyway, the funniest part of that article for me was:

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They talked about constant meetings during bus rides, flights and hotel rooms, asking, “How did we let [the freefall] happen?”

Told that, another GM said that’s exactly why Subban was the one to go.

It’s harsh, but it’s the reality of the cap, right? Your team falls apart without Price and you know what that means.
gotta put da team on your back brah
(which is basically impossible in hockey btw)

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One NHLer, who says he knows Subban and Hall “a little,” compared his own experience to theirs.

“Hall and Subban are very similar. Great players…great players. Determined. Driven. They want to win,” he said. “But from junior, they’ve always done it their way. The toughest thing to learn is how you can’t go your own way — especially when you are losing. I had to learn that. That’s the final lesson.”
but don't be a risk-taker and try to do too much all by yourself, be a team player
(when your team sucks gl with that)

i wrote about this before, but this thing bad teams do where they pin all the blame on their best players, rather than realizing they suck and replacing their worst players with better ones, never ceases to amuse me. it's just such dumb narrative slappy logic. like you're bad, so you trade some of your best players, ok. so what happens if you make a bad trade and lose that deal? WELP

both teams will be getting a dead cat bounce this season though, with Price coming back obv for Montreal, and Edmonton bringing in Lucic, 'boxing Puljujarvi, adding Larsson to the blueline, and presumably more than half a season for McBust. both could be in a position to claim victory next year, which would be pretty funny to see.
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09-06-2016 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
not a lot of teams finding success playing as risk-adverse [redacted]s afaik, but gl with that
No your missing the point.
When you fight for a spot in the series and there is like 2 min left in a tie game, first priority is to try to make that 1 pts in the bank, not take futile risk that can cost you the game with 2 min left in the game.

Even more so when you do not have a great goalie ( when Price is missing)...

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 09-06-2016 at 02:37 PM.
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09-06-2016 , 02:33 PM
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Lol because Price will obviously say that the guy they traded for is worse than the guy they traded away if that's his opinion

It's an awful trade and might be worse than the Seguin trade. Your GM and coach are both morons, deal with it.
Maybe Price was tired of correcting Subban mistake with great saves during last couple years...

When we say Price hides Montreal weakness when he plays, this might be one of them..
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09-06-2016 , 02:39 PM
You're talking like an NFL coach here, only looking at the downside of the risk and ignoring the upside that comes with the reward. I'm not saying PK doesn't make mistakes but overall he pretty obviously comes out ahead and is a top 5 Dman (top 10 if you wanna be conservative). Weber plays more cautious (partly because he doesn't have the skill) and maybe makes fewer obvious mistakes but that doesn't make up for the fact that he can't break out of his own zone effectively
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09-06-2016 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
gee i wonder what changed
(Carey Price got hurt in October, then again in November, and hasn't played a hockey game since)

anyway, the funniest part of that article for me was:



gotta put da team on your back brah
(which is basically impossible in hockey btw)



but don't be a risk-taker and try to do too much all by yourself, be a team player
(when your team sucks gl with that)

i wrote about this before, but this thing bad teams do where they pin all the blame on their best players, rather than realizing they suck and replacing their worst players with better ones, never ceases to amuse me. it's just such dumb narrative slappy logic. like you're bad, so you trade some of your best players, ok. so what happens if you make a bad trade and lose that deal? WELP

both teams will be getting a dead cat bounce this season though, with Price coming back obv for Montreal, and Edmonton bringing in Lucic, 'boxing Puljujarvi, adding Larsson to the blueline, and presumably more than half a season for McBust. both could be in a position to claim victory next year, which would be pretty funny to see.
I agree, but having great players that do not think in a team concept is not better.

Imo a team with b player that play coherently will win more often than a team with a player that play individually.
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09-06-2016 , 02:42 PM
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No your missing the point.
When you fight for a spot in the series and there is like 2 min left in a tie game, first priority is to try to make that 1 pts in the bank, not take futile risk that can cost you the game with 2 min left in the game.

Even more so when you do not have a great goalie ( when Price is missing)...
iirc at the point when the Habs lost that game in Denver they were way out of it anyway, like 8-10pts. it didn't matter as much as they want to pretend.

also, just eeking into the playoffs is ~nothing, but sure ownership might have liked to get an extra few milly for 2-3 home games. though they're loaded, so who gives a **** really. guessing MIKE & BERGY wanted it most, so they could add the '16 playoff participation ribbon to their resumes.

but mostly, making a decision like that based on a few bad plays here and there, while completely ignoring all the great plays he makes, is really ****ing stupid, and completely typical of idiots like that. if you aren't willing to accept ANY risk in this game, you aren't going to get very far. the best players, they make mistakes. the turnover leaders every year is basically a list of the MVP candidates. you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs, so to speak, in hockey.

Last edited by 72off; 09-06-2016 at 02:44 PM. Reason: slow
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09-06-2016 , 02:50 PM
looking at the giveaway numbers, wonder if it's something to do with the counting in Montreal, or MIKE's system, but there be a lot of Habs turning it over it seems:

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(most giveaways per 60)

1. Pastrnak
2. Thornton
3. Subban
4. Gaudreau
5. Cowen
6. Tavares
7. Brodie
8. Gilbert
9. Emelin

10. Pavelski
11. Getzlaf
12. Spezza
13. J.T. Miller
14. Benn
15. Pateryn
16. Burns
17. Seabrook
18. Marchand
19. Yakupov
20. Markov
you have these others guys turning it over a lot too, but with none of the upside of PK

if it's not an issue with counting, could be a looooong season for Carey...
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09-06-2016 , 03:40 PM
MC with the successful bait

In actual content, I feel North Americans are overrating Puljujärvi. He's still very raw and is odds-on not to feature much this season and is quite noticeably behind Laine atm. Could certainly be great in a few years though.
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