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04-28-2016
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04-28-2016
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draft #hottaking beginning
the Oracle Big Bobby Mack wrote some stuff yesterday...
a center heavy team binking 1 should be fun
Canucks totally gonna get 4 and take Tkachuk ugh
draft should be pretty popcorn this year after the top-3
think Keller & Jost probably have the best chance to leap up into the top-10. Keller looks pretty dynamic in a Kane/Gaudreau way, and TSN spent that U18 tournament trying to turn Jost into Toews. only takes 1 team to believe...
the Oracle Big Bobby Mack wrote some stuff yesterday...
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At face value, nothing has changed from TSN's Mid-Season NHL draft rankings. Matthews is still No. 1; Laine is still No. 2.
But when 10 NHL scouts were surveyed by TSN in late January/early February, all 10 had Matthews at No. 1. This time, in a survey of the same 10 scouts – conducted in the run-up to Saturday's NHL draft lottery – two of the 10 said Laine is now No. 1 on their team's lists. Others suggested they had to think long and hard about their decision to keep Matthews at No. 1.
But when 10 NHL scouts were surveyed by TSN in late January/early February, all 10 had Matthews at No. 1. This time, in a survey of the same 10 scouts – conducted in the run-up to Saturday's NHL draft lottery – two of the 10 said Laine is now No. 1 on their team's lists. Others suggested they had to think long and hard about their decision to keep Matthews at No. 1.
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The scouts surveyed said they will be watching with great interest the upcoming IIHF World Championship tourney, May 6 - 22 in Russia. Matthews has already been named to Team USA's roster. Laine is expected to be named to Finland's team.
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Puljujarvi remains entrenched at No. 3 – nine of 10 surveyed this week had him there; one scout ranked him second overall.
What's clear now, as it was in early February, is that the Big Three is indeed the Big Three. No prospect outside of Matthews and the two Finns was ranked in the top three on any of the 10 scouts' lists.
One scout said he allows for the possibility some NHL team may have someone other than Matthews, Laine and Puljujarvi in its top three, but is skeptical.
"I'm not sure anyone picking in the top three needs to overthink this," the scout said.
What's clear now, as it was in early February, is that the Big Three is indeed the Big Three. No prospect outside of Matthews and the two Finns was ranked in the top three on any of the 10 scouts' lists.
One scout said he allows for the possibility some NHL team may have someone other than Matthews, Laine and Puljujarvi in its top three, but is skeptical.
"I'm not sure anyone picking in the top three needs to overthink this," the scout said.
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London Knight winger Matthew Tkachuk is No. 4, followed by Cape Breton Screaming Eagle winger Pierre-Luc Dubois at No. 5 and Mississauga Steelhead winger Alex Nylander at No. 6.
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Only two of the 10 scouts surveyed by TSN had a defenceman in their top five – one had Sarnia Sting blueliner Jakob Chychrun, a U.S.-born dual citizen who represents Canada internationally, at No. 4 and another had London Knight Olli Juolevi, a Finn, at No. 5. Only two other scouts had a defenceman in their top six.
Juolevi checked in at No. 7 overall, followed by Russian Mikhail Sergachev of the Windsor Spitfires at No. 8 and Sarnia's Chychrun at No. 9. They are the top three d-men in this draft.
Two more defencemen – Canadian Jake Bean of the Calgary Hitmen, an offensive blueliner, and American Charlie McAvoy of Boston University, a puck mover who can be effective on the power play – were ranked in the Top 15 of the Lottery Edition. Bean was No. 12 and McAvoy No. 14.
Chychrun was the only defenceman to be ranked in anyone's top four prospects. One scout had him at No. 4 overall. But only four of the 10 scouts surveyed had him in their Top 10; six had him ranked 11th or lower. Worth noting, though, is that of the four scouts who ranked Chychrun in the Top 10, all four viewed him as the best defenceman in the draft.
In contrast, Juolevi’s highest rank was No. 5 overall, but nine of 10 scouts had him in their top 10. Two scouts had him ranked as the top D-man in the draft.
Sergachev’s highest rank was No. 6; seven of 10 scouts had him in their Top 10 but only two ranked him as the top defenceman in the draft.
Bean got two votes in the top 10 and McAvoy only one; Bean was viewed as the top defenceman in the draft by one scout.
Penticton Vees' defenceman Dante Fabbro, who played for Canada at the World U-18 Championship in Grand Forks, didn't quite make the cut for TSN's Top 15, but he did get one vote in the Top 10 (No. 5) and was deemed the top defenceman by that one scout. It’s another good example of the divergence of opinion on this year's blueline prospect pool.
Juolevi checked in at No. 7 overall, followed by Russian Mikhail Sergachev of the Windsor Spitfires at No. 8 and Sarnia's Chychrun at No. 9. They are the top three d-men in this draft.
Two more defencemen – Canadian Jake Bean of the Calgary Hitmen, an offensive blueliner, and American Charlie McAvoy of Boston University, a puck mover who can be effective on the power play – were ranked in the Top 15 of the Lottery Edition. Bean was No. 12 and McAvoy No. 14.
Chychrun was the only defenceman to be ranked in anyone's top four prospects. One scout had him at No. 4 overall. But only four of the 10 scouts surveyed had him in their Top 10; six had him ranked 11th or lower. Worth noting, though, is that of the four scouts who ranked Chychrun in the Top 10, all four viewed him as the best defenceman in the draft.
In contrast, Juolevi’s highest rank was No. 5 overall, but nine of 10 scouts had him in their top 10. Two scouts had him ranked as the top D-man in the draft.
Sergachev’s highest rank was No. 6; seven of 10 scouts had him in their Top 10 but only two ranked him as the top defenceman in the draft.
Bean got two votes in the top 10 and McAvoy only one; Bean was viewed as the top defenceman in the draft by one scout.
Penticton Vees' defenceman Dante Fabbro, who played for Canada at the World U-18 Championship in Grand Forks, didn't quite make the cut for TSN's Top 15, but he did get one vote in the Top 10 (No. 5) and was deemed the top defenceman by that one scout. It’s another good example of the divergence of opinion on this year's blueline prospect pool.
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Two American forwards – centre Clayton Keller of the U.S. National Development Team Program at No. 10 and Windsor Spitfire centre Logan Brown at No. 13 – are big risers from the mid-season to draft lottery rankings.
Keller is a smallish but gifted offensive centre with elite creativity; Brown is a 6-foot-6 pro-style centre who put up good numbers in Windsor and improved as the season wore on. Keller had five votes in the Top 10; Brown had four.
The Canadian equivalent of Keller and Brown – a prospect whose stock is trending up – is Penticton Vee centre Tyson Jost, who broke Connor McDavid’s Canadian scoring record at the World U-18 Championship. Jost was No. 13 at mid-season and has moved up two spots to No. 11.
Keller, Jost and Brown have moved up, quite possibly, at the expense of Mississauga Steelhead centre Michael McLeod, who is ranked 15th on TSN's Draft Lottery Edition. The hard-driving Canadian pivot was No. 9 at mid-season.
The 6-foot-2 centre projects to have NHL size and speed and he plays the game extremely hard, but scouts have expressed some concern about his offensive productivity at the next level. His fall from TSN's Top 10 was one of the more surprising developments; only one of 10 scouts had him as a Top 10 pick this time around.
Keller is a smallish but gifted offensive centre with elite creativity; Brown is a 6-foot-6 pro-style centre who put up good numbers in Windsor and improved as the season wore on. Keller had five votes in the Top 10; Brown had four.
The Canadian equivalent of Keller and Brown – a prospect whose stock is trending up – is Penticton Vee centre Tyson Jost, who broke Connor McDavid’s Canadian scoring record at the World U-18 Championship. Jost was No. 13 at mid-season and has moved up two spots to No. 11.
Keller, Jost and Brown have moved up, quite possibly, at the expense of Mississauga Steelhead centre Michael McLeod, who is ranked 15th on TSN's Draft Lottery Edition. The hard-driving Canadian pivot was No. 9 at mid-season.
The 6-foot-2 centre projects to have NHL size and speed and he plays the game extremely hard, but scouts have expressed some concern about his offensive productivity at the next level. His fall from TSN's Top 10 was one of the more surprising developments; only one of 10 scouts had him as a Top 10 pick this time around.
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top-3 vs 4 basically a flip for the Laffs, gl
LOiLers 60% not top-3 LOCK top-3 ldo
Canucks 66% NOT top-3 ugh
37% chance that a team outside the worst 5 will snag #1
reality: everyone has a pretty good chance of dropping, so yeah whoever lands in the top-3 will have to consider themselves pretty lucky. i mean it's kinda tilting to run that thing and the top-3 is like Flames / Sabres / Avs or whatever. could easily happen. at least 1 team getting real lucky probably will happen.
95% of ppl prolly gonna be on lifetilt tomorrow...
top-3 vs 4 basically a flip for the Laffs, gl
LOiLers 60% not top-3 LOCK top-3 ldo
Canucks 66% NOT top-3 ugh
37% chance that a team outside the worst 5 will snag #1
reality: everyone has a pretty good chance of dropping, so yeah whoever lands in the top-3 will have to consider themselves pretty lucky. i mean it's kinda tilting to run that thing and the top-3 is like Flames / Sabres / Avs or whatever. could easily happen. at least 1 team getting real lucky probably will happen.
95% of ppl prolly gonna be on lifetilt tomorrow...
