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06-07-2013 , 11:31 PM
Geddy,

You seem like a good dude. I've always liked Iginla but the B's have always been my team. Moved from Boston to Chicago last year. Gonna be an interesting series for sure.

Edit: obligatory "no ****" Hibbert
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06-07-2013 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Geddy Lee
I've already posted The Simpsons clip once itt tonight, no need for a repeat. But thanks for bringing this up yet again. He carried an entire ****ing city on his shoulders for 16 years - I want him to ride some coattails for once and get the ****ing ring already.

And I really don't know why people are so eager to emphasize how bad he is now. Perhaps because they can't understand why the coverage remains disproportionate to his current game? I think there are people who severely underestimate how much the dude is loved up here, and for all the right reasons too.

I'm gonna warn everyone now, I am not in a good place atm, so if I continue posting like a little girl pouting, I apologize in advance. But **** me. It doesn't seem fair.
I'm not eager to emphasize how bad he is - well, maybe a little, but only because he went to the Penguins who I loathe. And Iginla deserves all the love he gets in Alberta, he was an excellent player and remains a decent one. Still, you could make a hell of a team out of guys who never won a championship - it's not every great player's birthright.
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06-07-2013 , 11:41 PM
That's true, but our culture puts so much emphasis on rings, I want him to get his.

And it's not just Alberta, T. He transcends the sport up here, coast to coast. Think about it this way - Jarome is Schwartz's favourite player. That's how revered he is up here, and that's why I said I don't expect Murs - or the average American fan, for that matter - to really "get it."

If he gets a ring, it'll be the equivalent of when Lanny got his ring in '89. The Flames are maybe like the 5th most popular team in Canada, and Bob Cole's "You did it, Lanny!" call is still one of the most iconic in Canadian broadcasting history. It's still used in a Scotiabank commercial up here ffs.
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06-07-2013 , 11:45 PM
Yeah, I'll confess to not getting it. Even if the Devils hadn't been up against Ray Bourque, I would've hoped that Bourque put the Cup winning goal in his own net in the Finals, because [censored] him.

If he gets a ring, it'll be as a passenger - thus is how economics have warped the game.
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06-07-2013 , 11:48 PM
If they just won the goddamn series in '04, everything would be right with the universe.
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06-07-2013 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Geddy Lee
If they just won the goddamn series in '04, everything would be right with the universe.
Well, no, we'd hear a lot about how Martin St. Louis hasn't won one, and possibly Brad Richards, etc.

I mean - Marcel Dionne, Pierre Turgeon, Adam Oates, did Rod Langway ever win a Cup? I know Mark Howe never did, they didn't stop crying about that in 95. And a TON of today's stars will never win one. Not a birthright.
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06-07-2013 , 11:53 PM
Even if we leave the cultural significance up here alone, none of those guys could ever lay claim to being the best player in the world for an interval of time, either. Jarome was.

I think we kinda forget just how good his prime really was, because it was wasted in a minnow of a TV market, amidst some pretty garbage teams.
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06-07-2013 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Geddy Lee
Even if we leave the cultural significance up here alone, none of those guys could ever lay claim to being the best player in the world for an interval of time, either. Jarome was.

I think we kinda forget just how good his prime really was, because it was wasted in a minnow of a TV market, amidst some pretty garbage teams.
St. Louis Hart Trophies: 1
Jaromie Iginla Hart Trophies: 0

I mean, St. Louis was (and still is) a legitimately great player, so let's not sell him totally short, even though I know Hart trophies are ridiculous, he was pretty [censored] good in his own right.
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06-07-2013 , 11:58 PM
Marty, but if we're going to use the Hart argument, we need to throw out the caveat of a massive, massive LOL sportswriters/LOL Theodore in 2002. Iginla was absolutely robbed. Still won the Pearson tho.

Question T, how long ago can you track Corsi and Fenwick numbers? I've got a feeling that if we went back to Jarome's prime, during those years when people talked about how absurd his shot rate was when he was leading the league in shots attempted, he would've been a ridiculous Corsi monster.
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06-08-2013 , 12:05 AM
I hate the leafs the most but wish they beat boston now. Cause leafs def woulda lost Rd 2 to nyr. Then we'd have either pit or nyr advancing. Don't like either, but better than bos
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06-08-2013 , 12:05 AM
2007-08 is the cutoff, although vic ferrari assembled a proxy from zone time based on numbers compiled by the NHL in 2002, but only for teams.

judging by iginla's +/- he was probably a beast in those years between 2000-2005. again, first ballot HOFer and all of that.

theodore deserved the hart in 2002, but that's an issue with the award in general - it should probably always go to a goalie
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06-08-2013 , 12:16 AM
Jerome for me separated himself with his play for Team Canada that will always endear him to my heart. I don't remember him challenging for the role of best player in the world though.

In the end he picked the shinier whiter horse. We all know how that goes.
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06-08-2013 , 12:36 AM
06-08-2013 , 12:38 AM
unnecessary indeed but jarome chose the gold-studded cup
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06-08-2013 , 12:42 AM
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06-08-2013 , 12:52 AM
Just watched the replay of the Chara save. lolMalkin
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06-08-2013 , 12:55 AM
Ya was suprised that Lucic even answered the question. From what i saw they basically asked everyone that was interviewed about Iginla and Lucic was the only one to bite and give them a sound bite to replay.
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06-08-2013 , 01:38 AM
Brilliant no consequence troll by Lucic. What is are the Pens gonna do put that on the chalkboard for next year?

He will be taking Jerome's spot on Team Canada though. There is that.
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06-08-2013 , 01:38 AM
**** you Pittsburgh you useless mother ****ers
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06-08-2013 , 01:40 AM
Crosby embarrasses himself, his fans, his franchise, and the city of Pittsburgh. I, for one, am shocked.

Last edited by cwicemvp12; 06-08-2013 at 01:46 AM. Reason: forgot that he embarrassed Canada too. LOL CANADA
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06-08-2013 , 01:44 AM
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Brilliant no consequence troll by Lucic. What is are the Pens gonna do put that on the chalkboard for next year?

He will be taking Jerome's spot on Team Canada though. There is that.
Canada is in serious trouble in Sochi if Milan Lucic is playing on our first line.
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06-08-2013 , 01:55 AM
Man Crosby and Malkin had zero ****ing points. **** you guys
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06-08-2013 , 01:56 AM
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06-08-2013 , 01:59 AM
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Canada is in serious trouble in Sochi if Milan Lucic is playing on our first line.
What? You mean our opponents are in serious trouble right?

You just can't get your head wrapped around how valuable he is. Especially in an all-star format where you wrap pure scorers around him and he just clears the way. The scorers are easy find. The beast warriors like him. Not so much.
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06-08-2013 , 02:05 AM
Because taking runs at guys on Olympic ice has proven to be so valuable to our success in the past.
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