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View Poll Results: Who finishes with a higher ranking?
Michigan in the AP poll
24 92.31%
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2 7.69%

10-12-2015 , 03:15 PM
i would definitely be interested in seeing that super bowl
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10-12-2015 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
this is basically why (mentioned above):

the betting market (and to a lesser extent other metrics that weight prior seasons) is still saying the Broncos have the 11th best offense in the league. in Yards/Play, they rank 29th. IOW if you just care about this year, then yeah a ranking of 10-12 is accurate. if you think they'll regress to their recent history, you go higher
This is my weekly, 'Always wait 2 days for inpredictable rankings' post (Tuesday for Sunday games, Wednesday for Monday games)

It posts rankings early in the morning, and there's very few lines out monday morning.

Saturday before the games start is the most accurate place, but Tuesday for Sunday games and Wednesday for Monday games should be fine
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10-12-2015 , 03:24 PM
Falcons panthers Super Bowl interested in the logistics of that one.

Panthers saints/Falcons bucs conference championship games too I suppose
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10-12-2015 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Eltbus
Falcons panthers Super Bowl interested in the logistics of that one.

Panthers saints/Falcons bucs conference championship games too I suppose
Losers get relegated imo
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10-12-2015 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Searix
This is my weekly, 'Always wait 2 days for inpredictable rankings' post (Tuesday for Sunday games, Wednesday for Monday games)

It posts rankings early in the morning, and there's very few lines out monday morning.

Saturday before the games start is the most accurate place, but Tuesday for Sunday games and Wednesday for Monday games should be fine
yeah but for the Broncos, this is basically a long term trend per inpredictable, this didn't just pop up.

the larger point is that the Broncos offense in the first 5 games has almost exclusively been really bad - I think we can all agree on that. but the betting market is still thinking they are at least average going forward
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10-12-2015 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Falcons/Panthers Super Bowl might set the record for smallest TV audience.
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I got zero ppl watching it.
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i would definitely be interested in seeing that super bowl
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Falcons panthers Super Bowl interested in the logistics of that one.

Panthers saints/Falcons bucs conference championship games too I suppose
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Originally Posted by Searix
Losers get relegated imo
lol I meant Panthers/Bengals or Falcons/Bengals....and I got discombobulated.

I do like the idea of relegation, though.
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10-12-2015 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
Payton is a drug addict. Lol at him being sought after. Guy is donezo. I think rebuilding the city of New Orleans with his own bare hands just took so much out of him.
He's still gotta be better than 3/4 of the coaches in football even if he is a shell of himself
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10-12-2015 , 04:08 PM
Relegation won't work in the US simply because there isn't any viable minor league outside of college in the NFL. They've all failed and the latest one--the FXFL is a complete disaster as it only has 3 teams now. If I were to guess, I'd say maybe portland since they're pretty supportive of minor league stuff over there but obviously would be a killer for league costs to/from travel there. Alabama mayyyybe and I basically give up after that since it's down to hey let's use those old NFL stadiums that their team left for LA. Other problem is that any good time to show a football game is eaten up now by someone else. Would have to be like WEDNESDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL or something.
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10-12-2015 , 04:11 PM
Was mostly kidding but would the CFL be viable?
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10-12-2015 , 04:15 PM
The NFL definitely needs a minor league of some kind...just to better prepare their quarterbacks, if nothing else.
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10-12-2015 , 04:15 PM
relegation wont work but how about a rule where if a team goes 0-16 then they are compelled to move and the city is banned from having a replacement for 5 years

would make for very exciting late season games for fans of atrocious teams!
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10-12-2015 , 04:17 PM
Lol Barnwell. Picks Lions +2.5, they get rocked, and the narrative is lolLions. Lose @SEA in night game by 3 (inches) week before. But yeah Lions are HISTORICALLY BAD.
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10-12-2015 , 04:17 PM
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Brandon cooks kinda sucks. Snead seems pretty good but Colston is just awful now too
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Yup. Can't get open.
He was an interesting prospect out of college. He had an amazing ability to fight for the ball that reminded me of Steve Smith Sr. Unfortunately, the problem with that is if he was fighting for balls in college because he couldn't get open there how the heck is he supposed to succeed in the NFL?
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10-12-2015 , 04:33 PM
cooks was screwed once they traded everyone and he became the number one option. He's much better as a secondary choice rather than the primary. He's too much of a slanker for that but still a great weapon, just not as the #1
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10-12-2015 , 07:48 PM
Ray Lewis is the biggest meathead possible.
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10-12-2015 , 07:55 PM
Ray lewis should not be allowed to speak. To think like 40% of people out there probably think hes a brilliant orator.
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10-12-2015 , 08:01 PM
Think after the concussion backlash its ESPNs goal to show that these guys would be working in shoe factories if it wasn't for the NFL.
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10-12-2015 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
Ray lewis should not be allowed to speak. To think like 40% of people out there probably think hes a brilliant orator.

He could run for senator from Maryland or some **** and win easily
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10-12-2015 , 08:10 PM
Ditkas iq has to be around 63 by now. I dont even think he talks anymore. He will die some day and espn will still prop him up for a few more weeks behind that desk.

They will probably design an Applebees sponsored segment called weekend at Ditka's
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10-12-2015 , 09:26 PM
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Tough to make a case that SD is better than Minnesota, considering they got walloped by them.
49ers > Vikings I guess.

Oh and here's a good one - teams with a 17+ point lead in the 4th are now 427-1 last five seasons, lol fauxhawks

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10-12-2015 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Palo
He was an interesting prospect out of college. He had an amazing ability to fight for the ball that reminded me of Steve Smith Sr. Unfortunately, the problem with that is if he was fighting for balls in college because he couldn't get open there how the heck is he supposed to succeed in the NFL?
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cooks was screwed once they traded everyone and he became the number one option. He's much better as a secondary choice rather than the primary. He's too much of a slanker for that but still a great weapon, just not as the #1
The Saints traded up for him like they thought they were getting Odell Beckham. Instead they got a guy who's fast but can't get separation from physical coverage and has no catch radius. The pick they traded to move up for him was used on a receiver who might be better than him. And worse yet, the Saints drafted so badly he's the ONLY player left from the 2014 class. And that's why the college scouting department was fired this offseason.

That decision, and the early success of their 2015 rookies, led me to research their drafting. In nine years of drafting with the Payton-Loomis team (06-14), they picked exactly one player in the first round who has returned value above expectation for his draft slot. IIRC they did pretty poorly in the second and third rounds, too, but I haven't fully crunched the numbers (probably will for a Zone Reads column).
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10-12-2015 , 10:35 PM
Cooks is exactly what he was in college. To utilize his skill set, you're going to need a shrewd OC to get people off physically jamming him and it's best if he's on a team with a QB with a cannon so he can run deep to beat slower defenders. Naturally the Saints QB's are all seemingly below average arm strength types.

what a WR draft that was, so many LOL's after cooks then it's like wait a second, we're back to damn good players again end of 2nd round/into the 3rd.

scrolling down eagles drafted josh huff b/c oregon, next pick phillip gaines (who most of 2p2 loved), next 2 WR's picked are moncrief and john brown. god no wonder chip was upset

and I just noticed chicago could've drafted a +EV gamble in martavis bryant instead of a RB we had no use for.

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10-12-2015 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
Ray lewis should not be allowed to speak. To think like 40% of people out there probably think hes a brilliant orator.
lol
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10-13-2015 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Cooks is exactly what he was in college. To utilize his skill set, you're going to need a shrewd OC to get people off physically jamming him and it's best if he's on a team with a QB with a cannon so he can run deep to beat slower defenders. Naturally the Saints QB's are all seemingly below average arm strength types.

what a WR draft that was, so many LOL's after cooks then it's like wait a second, we're back to damn good players again end of 2nd round/into the 3rd.

scrolling down eagles drafted josh huff b/c oregon, next pick phillip gaines (who most of 2p2 loved), next 2 WR's picked are moncrief and john brown. god no wonder chip was upset

and I just noticed chicago could've drafted a +EV gamble in martavis bryant instead of a RB we had no use for.
I would bet the cannon is good not just for slower defenders but because when Cooks gets open it's not for long. Idon't think he's a guy Brees has been able to count on in an anticipation/timing/"throwing him open" sense.

Kelvin Benjamin and Jordan Matthews are quite good, so I was wondering what you were talking about, but the rest of the second round (outside Allen Robinson and Jarvis Landry at the end) has not measured up. Marqise Lee and Paul Richardson can't get healthy. Cody Latimer may not be able to grasp the offense. Davante Adams is currently looking like some combination of "injured" and "not that good."

And now I see the Saints drafted Stanley Jean-Baptiste three picks before Robinson and five before Landry, and I'm sad again.
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