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06-19-2017 , 12:48 PM

#2601

TimTimSalabim

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lol Seahawks fans

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06-19-2017 , 12:54 PM

#2602

Noze

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Do you even 2p2 bro?

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...fpart=all&vc=1

Damn, woosh

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06-19-2017 , 01:01 PM

#2603

ashley12

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I would bet pretty solid money ARod outperforms Russ in their 33-36 age seasons

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06-19-2017 , 01:02 PM

#2604

BillNye

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Hardest part for me is ordering: Mariota, Dak, Jaemis. I got all 3 ahead of Carr who is older, has the injury, has an elite supporting cast (similar to Daks) and who in 3 seasons has not posted a higher YPA than any of the other 3's worst season.

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06-19-2017 , 04:35 PM

#2605

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by ashley12

I would bet pretty solid money ARod outperforms Russ in their 33-36 age seasons

Uh, I would too? The question posed was for a dynasty perspective now. You can get 5ish more years of Rodgers followed by whatever you can scrounge, vs. 10ish more of Wilson. Even if Rodgers is better than Wilson for each of those 5 years, which isn't a given, there is still value in the younger guy.

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06-19-2017 , 04:36 PM

#2606

Caldarooni

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ya ok.

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06-19-2017 , 05:18 PM

#2607

PocketInfinities

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Rodgers vs Luck is much more close/interesting than Rodgers vs Russell

{Luck, Rodgers} >> Russell > Winston >> {Carr, Mariota} >>>> Dak

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06-19-2017 , 06:01 PM

#2608

BillNye

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Dak in year 1 > Carr in year 3. Supporting casts are similar now (obv Carr had trash as a rookie). Why you hating on Dak?

Also Winston >> Mariota seems unfounded but I could see an argument for Winstons more traditional style translating better long term.

I would have taken Mariota 1st overall in that draft tho and haven't seen anything from either that'd make me change that although I do think they're close, essentially a toss up at this point.

Last edited by BillNye; 06-19-2017 at 06:07 PM.

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06-19-2017 , 06:07 PM

#2609

that_pope

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Luck is way overrated.

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06-19-2017 , 06:21 PM

#2610

JMurder3

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Are we factoring in salary issues into the analysis? Because there's definitely value in getting to underpay the guy for 3 more years & then have a couple cost controlled years, above & beyond just the age differences.

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06-19-2017 , 06:47 PM

#2611

BillNye

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Contracts irrelevant for my initial question

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06-19-2017 , 08:55 PM

#2612

JMurder3

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No excuses for Mariota this year with Decker & Davis.

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06-19-2017 , 09:27 PM

#2613

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No excuses for Mariota this year with Decker & Davis.

counterpoint Mike Mularkey

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06-19-2017 , 09:34 PM

#2614

BillNye

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Mariota and the Titans were +3.5 games better than their 2016 O/U

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06-19-2017 , 10:03 PM

#2615

moistpanties

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LOLOLOLOL

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06-20-2017 , 10:27 AM

#2616

Perhaps Shimmy

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Carr is only 1 year younger than Luck, wat

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06-20-2017 , 12:26 PM

#2617

Caldarooni

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Age doesn't seem to be as much of a factor for pocket passers

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06-20-2017 , 12:38 PM

#2618

Perhaps Shimmy

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No idea where to rate Mariota tbh. Good completion % and low interceptions, but he had everything going for him in Tennessee- an elite Oline, great running game with a high workload, and a low passing workload. I think the titans were ~3rd in rushing attempts and ~22nd in passing attempts in the league.

He's coming off a big injury but the Titans added a few decent receivers so we'll see how he does.

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06-20-2017 , 12:41 PM

#2619

Perhaps Shimmy

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Oh yeah, didn't we have a "best young QB" thread that was trolltastic?

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06-20-2017 , 01:57 PM

#2620

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former NFL player Ryan O’Callaghan comes out as gay.

amazing story

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O’Callaghan had always planned to commit suicide after football, until Kansas City Chiefs staffers stepped in.

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06-20-2017 , 03:57 PM

#2621

bazooka87

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Everything going except an average or better WR

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Oh yeah, didn't we have a "best young QB" thread that was trolltastic?

Yeah best thread ever

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06-20-2017 , 07:28 PM

#2622

REDeYeS00

always sloppy

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predicting Mariota will be >> than Winston forever and always.
discipline vs needs to be disciplined

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06-20-2017 , 08:29 PM

#2623

stinkubus

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Meh, I think bombs away is going to be a viable offense for the Bucs this season, especially if they can run the ball at all.

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06-20-2017 , 09:40 PM

#2624

wheatrich

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2014 former NFL player and browns first round draft pick suspended a year for substance abuse.

(obv it's Justin Gilbert. Only passing on Beckham, Donald so they were in a tough spot, no great players available)

2 first round picks in that draft already out of the NFL before the rookie contract ended and the Browns took both of them.