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12-29-2010 , 04:48 PM

#201

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I read something yesterday that had Bowers going 1st overall if Luck stays at Stanford. Insanity?

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12-29-2010 , 04:50 PM

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Clausen tho

If Luck is as good as all the scouts are saying then Carolina would be insane to pass up on him.

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I read something yesterday that had Bowers going 1st overall if Luck stays at Stanford. Insanity?

I think Peterson would go #1 overall if Luck doesnt come out

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12-29-2010 , 04:59 PM

#203

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3. Cincinnati – Cam Newton, QB, Auburn

palmer tho.

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12-29-2010 , 05:03 PM

#204

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If Luck is as good as all the scouts are saying then Carolina would be insane to pass up on him.

I think Peterson would go #1 overall if Luck doesnt come out

If Luck doesn't come out, one of the top QB's will magically rise up the boards and become the #1 pick. It almost always happens.

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12-29-2010 , 05:05 PM

#205

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palmer tho.

Don't you think he's not very good?

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12-29-2010 , 05:06 PM

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It will be funny if Luck does come out and doesn't go #1.

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12-29-2010 , 05:06 PM

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Also,

If Luck doesn't come out, he's an idiot.

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12-29-2010 , 05:09 PM

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Don't you think he's not very good?

i think hes mediocre at best and the bengals should take a QB. but this is the cincinnati bengals were talking about they think they have a franchise QB, hell they are negotiating w/ marvin lewis still. highly doubt they take a QB in the 1st rd.

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12-29-2010 , 05:11 PM

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If Luck is as good as all the scouts are saying then Carolina would be insane to pass up on him.

100% agree. I saw that there was an ESPN Insider article with Kiper saying that the Panthers might not go QB at #1 because of Clausen. This was very lol to me.

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12-29-2010 , 05:13 PM

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Also,

If Luck doesn't come out, he's an idiot.

Maybe he just really really digs architectural design.

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12-29-2010 , 05:27 PM

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If Luck doesn't come out, one of the top QB's will magically rise up the boards and become the #1 pick. It almost always happens.

Peterson is arguably the best secondary prospect since C. Woodson tho.

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12-29-2010 , 05:42 PM

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Prince > Peterson

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12-29-2010 , 05:47 PM

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Lions 100% getting A.J. Green. Everything is falling into place for it to happen lol. Georgia to Georgia/Georgia Tech connections imo.

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12-29-2010 , 06:07 PM

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bengals did take david klingler some years back when esiason was only 31 years old and one year removed from consecutive pro bowl seasons. palmer will be 32.

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12-29-2010 , 06:47 PM

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I think Peterson would go #1 overall if Luck doesnt come out

Isn't CB one of the few positions Carolina has pretty well covered (no pun intended)? If they don't go QB, I would guess they're much more likely to go with AJ Green so Clausen has a legitimate target.

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If Luck doesn't come out, one of the top QB's will magically rise up the boards and become the #1 pick. It almost always happens.

Eh, I don't think this is as likely as it has been in past years. The Panthers just drafted a QB, they have a billion holes, and there really aren't any QBs worthy of the #1 slot (or arguably even a top 10 slot). There are, however, several players at other positions who are excellent prospects. If Luck goes back to school, a QB might still go #1, but I just can't see the Panthers being to the ones to pick Mallett/Newton there.

Last edited by K.O.S.; 12-29-2010 at 06:49 PM. Reason: and if they suck for another year, they get to do it all over again in 2012 in the Barkley/Luck "jackpot" draft

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12-29-2010 , 07:19 PM

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I'd be stunned if the Panthers don't snap take Luck if he comes out. If they pass on Luck after seeing Clausen

and I'll become a Lions fan or something.

If he doesn't come out (FML) I think they'll shop the pick and hope someone falls in love with Newton or Mallett. Assuming they can't do that then I think it'd be Fairley or Peterson in that order.

edit: Kos has the right idea in that it's Luck or no QB for the Panthers at #1. I'd be stunned if they reached on Newton or Mallett.

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12-29-2010 , 07:25 PM

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Lions 100% getting A.J. Green. Everything is falling into place for it to happen lol. Georgia to Georgia/Georgia Tech connections imo.

If the Lions don't take one of the CB's, I would revolt if I was their fan base.

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12-29-2010 , 07:41 PM

#218

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Prince > Peterson

nah

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12-29-2010 , 07:56 PM

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I think Peterson gets overrated a bit because of his return skills. He's certainly physically more impressive, but I think Prince is better in most aspects (ball skills, foot work, hips, instincts) that matter at CB. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Peterson end up at safety in the NFL.

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12-29-2010 , 08:03 PM

#220

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I admittedly haven't seen enough of Prince to evaluate but I do know that it's been a long time since I've seen a college CB so effective as Peterson.

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12-29-2010 , 08:05 PM

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I admittedly haven't seen enough of Prince to evaluate but I do know that it's been a long time since I've seen a college CB so effective as Peterson.

We won't really be able to get a real idea of which one is better until they run the shuttle drill at the combine.

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12-29-2010 , 08:33 PM

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100% agree. I saw that there was an ESPN Insider article with Kiper saying that the Panthers might not go QB at #1 because of Clausen. This was very lol to me.

Why lol? It's only his first year.

And if Luck has a bad first year then get another QB? Then another? Please. It's very rare that a QB comes in and does much at all when they start as rookies.

Carolina may trade their 1st round pick.

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12-29-2010 , 08:39 PM

#223

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Draft scouts have given Luck their highest grade since either Elway or Peyton Manning. Jimmy Clausen has shown nothing that even makes the choice a semi difficult decision.

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12-29-2010 , 08:50 PM

#224

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Clausen is terrible, it'd be a disaster to not take Luck.

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12-29-2010 , 08:54 PM

#225

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Yeah, even if played OKish this year the disparity between Luck + Claussen is still too enormous to pass up Luck.

As it is, he played like crap and really shouldn't factor into the super easy decision at #1.

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