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Old 06-09-2010, 10:46 PM   #601
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Re: NCAAF Conference Expansion- Cornhuskers to Big12ten

So you think they will add schools just not Florida schools or you don't think they will add any?
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Yeah no way this happens. Football and basketball are only 2 sports of lots and lots. These schools need the NCAA for those other sports, right?
It's more like those sports need football.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:49 PM   #603
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If I had to guess I'd say Miami-UNC-FSU-Clemson-GT-VT would be their preferred order, but UNC is extremely unlikely which makes Miami-FSU-Clemson the most likely candidates with GT and VT both wanting badly to get in (if those other 3 depart) with GT holding the edge for now.
I agree with this. It's more of a numbers battle for the SEC if they are going to expand... where else could they really go? You can get all 4 tobacco road teams as a package, you can go for the B12North leftovers, scrape up Big East teams, or overlap your territory.

Overlapping for FSU, Miami, GT and Clemson makes the most realistic sense to me.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:50 PM   #604
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Yeah, the more I think about it, it really makes no sense for the SEC to expand. The pie would just get cut up 4 more ways and they really wouldn't be adding new territories/eyeballs to their product.
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Add Schlabach said as much in his column today:

Will the ACC and SEC react to Big Ten and/or Pac-10 expansion?

Unless Texas is on the market, it seems unlikely the SEC will react. Adding the Longhorns and other Big 12 schools would expand the SEC's footprint west, but the Longhorns don't seem interested in joining the SEC at this point. It is believed that SEC commissioner Michael Slive's top targets for potential expansion would be Texas and possibly Virginia Tech. Adding schools such as Clemson, Florida State and Miami would improve the SEC's on-field product in football, but it would do little to strengthen its brand name in outside markets. One SEC official told ESPN.com this week that adding teams like the Seminoles and Hurricanes would only be adding schools "that would divide the pie even more." Also, Florida athletics director Jeremy Foley might be reluctant to add FSU and Miami because the Gators have tried to use their SEC membership as a recruiting advantage in their home state. Unless the Big East dissolves, it seems unlikely the ACC would do much in reaction, either.
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So you think they will add schools just not Florida schools or you don't think they will add any?
I don't think they will add any. What is the upside?
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Re: NCAAF Conference Expansion- Cornhuskers to Big12ten

can someone cliffs what is confirmed vs what is rumored plz
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:53 PM   #607
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Yah I've heard the pie argument, but they have to realize that the next pie will probably be smaller b/c the SEC will no longer be the premier conference for football.
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I don't think they will add any. What is the upside?
I'm curious how it effects recruiting. High school kids are strange birds. Knowing that 2 super conferences are going to be formed will high school kids really not want to go there? I can see SEC losing kids to that and eventually losing this sense of invincibility.

But maybe not if the bowls stay and continue to be in the south and in good weather.
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Yah I've heard the pie argument, but they have to realize that the next pie will probably be smaller b/c the SEC will no longer be the premier conference for football.
What pie are you referring to?

edit to say: i'm guessing you are referring to the next TV deal.

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can someone cliffs what is confirmed vs what is rumored plz
Nothing is officially confirmed.

Nebraska is the closest to confirmed.

Everything else is rumors.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:56 PM   #611
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Re: NCAAF Conference Expansion- Cornhuskers to Big12ten

This dude's blog sums up the pro-SEC expansion viewpoint pretty nicely: SEC Expansion
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This dude's blog sums up the pro-SEC expansion viewpoint pretty nicely: SEC Expansion
nice, i'll read it shortly. thx.
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If the Big10 adds markets the BTN will also add markets and therefore increase revenue. If the SEC adds markets they're still locked into their contract with ESPN and each school receives less.

At least that's how I understand it.
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This dude's blog sums up the pro-SEC expansion viewpoint pretty nicely: SEC Expansion
lol at that blog.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:03 PM   #615
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Also, the TV contracts recently signed by the SEC and ACC can be changed if conference expansion or contraction comes about. If the 4 ACC schools bolt to the SEC, I'd imagine the ACC's new contract would take a nosedive, freeing up enough money to make it worthwhile for the SEC to want to divide up the total pie between 16 schools.
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