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Prepare for Bogut to move to like Denver for a small asset and then be bought out. This saves Denver money due to reaching the floor. Couple other potential teams can do this type of thing too

02-23-2017 , 01:07 PM

#5103

yellowfever

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Christophersen

I have a hunch that Celtics are more likely to land Butler. Here's why:

Ainge is mastermind and leaking for his own benefit. So he leaks he mentioned nets pick for PG13, but really Indiana already said they won't move him, but Bulls perhaps have said if they introduced that pick a deal could be done. So now Ainge is waiting by the phone for Bulls to come in and say "wait wait" and maybe give up a little value

Could be true.

If im the bulls/pacers and this years nets picks and Smart+Brown are on the table im shipping and rebuilding.

02-23-2017 , 01:07 PM

#5104

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Celts should just get Drummond too if they're going to get George. No half measures.

02-23-2017 , 01:08 PM

#5105

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Originally Posted by Clayton

usually when picks are protected like this, they roll into a looser protection the next year, and the next, until it expires or becomes a second round pick.

my guess is two years from now the protection might be 1-6 and PHI sees the most value in Noel via a cheap wing with upside (Anderson) and a lottery pick two years from now.

trust the process, etc.

i don't see much of an issue with this deal, Embiid/Saric is the future for this franchise and Holmes is proving to be a good value contract for the backup 4 slot. I don't see Noel as a good fit with this roster longterm even though the defensive metrics are elite. Better to have Embiid and the spacing that Saric provides, just imo.

Saric is a future bench piece. Embiid/Simmons is the future.

The main issue is that we wasted a ton of time on the Okafor/Embiid pairing despite it being a predictable failure, yet we only did 8 minutes of due diligence on Noel/Embiid. Those 8 minutes were glorious though.

02-23-2017 , 01:09 PM

#5106

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Originally Posted by Clayton

Yea I agree on Noel being a bad fit but shouldn't just be given away. Obv mavs pick isn't gonna move this year so depends on the protections for next year. If it's 1-6 then it's a better pick though mavs will stink again and could even easily land there

02-23-2017 , 01:10 PM

#5107

tarheeljks

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Gonna lol Philly

02-23-2017 , 01:11 PM

#5108

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Just give Colangelo time .... he will eventually squander all of Hinkie's assets.

Guy was a total fish on a heater in his first season in Toronto and then got found out for the fraud he is.

02-23-2017 , 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MediocrePlayer2.0

Just give Colangelo time .... he will eventually squander all of Hinkie's assets.

Yup. It has begun.

02-23-2017 , 01:13 PM

#5110

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Still hearing Okafor is likely on the move.

02-23-2017 , 01:13 PM

#5111

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seems impossible for colangelo to squander the lakers/kings picks unless he seriously made a run at jimmy butler. who else would fit in their roster/timeframe that would be worth making a run at?

02-23-2017 , 01:14 PM

#5112

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come on pacers! would love to land the Nyets pick + Smart/Brown.

02-23-2017 , 01:17 PM

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I assume most of the Nets 1st + asset player/s for PG are just guys throwing stuff at the wall hoping it sticks. Lol Ainge if he's considering something like that their window will really start to open up almost right as PG hits 30 and starts to decline.

02-23-2017 , 01:20 PM

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I like Noel on Dallas a lot. It seems great from the perspective of both the fit now and building towards a post-Dirk future. It's easy to forget he's only 22 years old.

02-23-2017 , 01:21 PM

#5115

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MediocrePlayer2.0

Just give Colangelo time .... he will eventually squander all of Hinkie's assets.

Guy was a total fish on a heater in his first season in Toronto and then got found out for the fraud he is.

Get Hinkie back asap to finish the process

02-23-2017 , 01:22 PM

#5116

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Yeah DAL won that deal by a ****load. I don't see Anderson ever being a viable NBA piece and I was pretty high on him predraft relative to his draft position.

02-23-2017 , 01:23 PM

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noel to dallas hurts their draft equity by a good clip

i've long believed in the hot take that rick carlisle is sneakily one of the worst coaches in the league by future team EV metrics, he's so good that they're destined for the 10th pick instead of a legit top 3 sweat.

02-23-2017 , 01:24 PM

#5118

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I guess Anderson has attitude problems and might be locker room cancer. Bad look

02-23-2017 , 01:26 PM

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Embiid now longest tenured sixers.

Also he's out at least 4 more games. Philly gonna go hard into tank after having a little run

02-23-2017 , 01:26 PM

#5120

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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22

I like Noel on Dallas a lot. It seems great from the perspective of both the fit now and building towards a post-Dirk future. It's easy to forget he's only 22 years old.

Probably can get him for a reasonable deal as well.

He should definitely be playing 30mpg for someone.

02-23-2017 , 01:29 PM

#5121

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That is an incredible selling low moment for the 76ers, especially since they didn't lock it up as a 3 team deal for a Bogut landing spot. Now there's very little leverage in their attempts to dump Bogut since everybody knows he's getting bought out.

02-23-2017 , 01:29 PM

#5122

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Gerald Green and Avery Bradley apparently held out of Celtics practice itshappening.gif

02-23-2017 , 01:31 PM

#5123

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Avery bradley and Gerald green held out of practice

02-23-2017 , 01:34 PM

#5124

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bode-ist

come on pacers! would love to land the Nyets pick + Smart/Brown.

Ugh, I hate this idea.

The Nets pick is being wildly overrated. A top 4 pick in a draft without a clear #1 pick is not worth giving up PG.

Hold firm, build around PG and Turner in the offseason and if you still think PG is bailing when the 2018 deadline rolls around then you can move him then.

02-23-2017 , 01:36 PM

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the nets picks are not overrated. ball and fultz are elite prospects that could line up amazingly with Turner. they are both basically clear #1 picks, tho I give a slight favor to Ball.

would presume they go after the '17 pick and not the '18 pick.

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