yeah, just saw KG and Rasheed are hosting a show on TNT

I never knew how badly I need that. The realness levels are off the chart with that combo.

Same.

But wasn't sheed doing some assistant coaching with the Pistons?

I'm not even saying you're wrong overall (I think Turner is trash too), but this is horrible arguing. You straight up said that if Turner is succeeding on your team then your team isn't a good one. Boston last year is an instant disproof of that. Is it really so hard to just say "ok maybe not ALWAYS but his role is still very problematic in general and he's just nowhere near good enough at what he does do to make up for that"?

Adding in salary after VMF has already admitted it was a stupid overpay and is only talking about his pure ability/value to a team isn't a good look either.

Boston finished 5th in a terrible conference and then got run out by a terrible team in the first round

Or they finished equal 3rd and lost their second best player in the first game and still got it to six games without HGA.

You don't think Boston were 'a good team' last year?

they were fine i might still be bitter over betting on them against atl

They were overachieving try-harding frauds.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think the east had approximately 2 good teams last year

Is it correct to say that minutes don't matter as much as getting full games off?

Like, does playing 25 minutes per game actually make a difference (if your regular is 35 minutes)? Or would you rather just play 30-35 minutes but take a week or two off in the middle of the season where you do nothing with your body?

seems like the second one would actually be better for staying fresh. If you just play 25 minutes you still get sore, you still have to warm up before the game, go to shootaround, cool down afterwards, go to practice, lift, etc etc etc. I can't imagine that 10 minutes of game action makes THAT much of a difference in a full day like that. But a mini vacation during the middle of the season seems like it would allow a player to really do nothing for a few weeks and get your full strength back. But I'm not an expert, just speculating. Don't know if there are any kinesiologists in here.

This is right. They paid 75 million for a player that's basically only useful in a playoff series for 14 minutes a night if Dame or CJ get hurt.

Last year was the best imaginable fit for the guy and he was still -1.61 RPM and his offensive stats last year were pretty bad too. 18.8% Usage, 51.3% True shooting, 5.7 assists per/36. Meh.

I will agree with what VM has said before and say that I think a lot of people here are underrating his defense though. Hes perfectly fine on D imo.

Everyone signing a contract for the next few years will be overpaid dramatically. Noah stealing more money from nyk over the next few years than Ewing made in his career is the new reality.

Also I would say sitting back to backs with normal minutes is basically the best balance for what you are talking about. I think the Lebron style couple weeks off of rest is the worst way.

If you look at performance, there really is no difference between having 1 day of rest in between games or 2 or more days of rest, but a sizable performance drop off in back to backs, and 4 in 5s.

Also much increased chance of injury in back to backs as well.

Thon Maker got 1 minute of garbage time tonight and we learned he definitely has NBA range

I still want his jersey.

There have been 6 games this year where a team has had a 15 point lead and lost.

1 was the Sixers
1 was the Suns
1 was the Heat
3 were the 1-3 Timberwolves

Some things never change.

Shaq's gotta be 400lbs now. He looks huge.

There should be an * next to the 1 in 1-3.

You are so clueless, go look at IT2s numbers his enitre career. I could destroy all you ET arguments but whats the point. Slappies gonna Slappy

Not gonna lie, I think BRAD is the defensive version of George Karl. He takes guys and gets them to over-perform by administering gimmicky-yet-genius schemes that work when a team sees you once in a while and can't spend a lot of time game-planning, but gets crushed in the playoffs.

That's still the mark of a great coach and to an extent I think Popp/Buldy are similar.

they are still starting with vucevic, and Payton

speaking of OKC, Penis Cancer with 0 assists in 90 minutes of play

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/nik...ia-basketball/

pretty good article by JOKIC

Meh. This is only true when you ignore that Brad has always had pretty meh rosters, whereas George Karl coached multiple contenders.

funny thing about turner so far is that he's actually lighting it up as a jumpshooter-- he's getting killed in the paint though. stotts may not be brad overall but he also runs some sweet stuff on offense, so attributing turner's terribleness to a coaching dip is sketch. whether it's jumpers or drives-- mostly the former-- turner has played off the dribble and outside of the offense way too much in the (two) games i've seen. i recall a really egregious early clock long 2 against LAC.

the discussion about "what happened to turner" is also weird b/c makes it sound like he was really good offensively on boston. he provided a measure of shot creation on a team that needed a secondary perimeter creator, which has value obv, but he was not esp good at it

vmf, also think i recall you saying turner is kinda like livingston but they don't play particularly similarly (though i can kinda see where you are coming from).

The thing with the Turner signing is the amount is pretty insignificant for Portland because they were going to be over the cap regardless. They had ONE SHOT to grab someone they needed before all their extensions kick in, so they identified a need and went for it. They HAD to overpay because they couldn't afford to miss. Basically, if Portland thought Evan Turner is worth picking up at all, and I think he is, then they had to empty the clip quite early in the process. The only other player that made sense for their "need" was Chandler Parsons, and they couldn't afford him.

I think the problem is that they were a little to happy to have a 45 win team and didn't want to take a step back in order to take a leap forward. I don't blame them though, and if anything you have to respect an owner who is willing to take a major financial loss just to be relevant.

In a vacuum it was a bad signing, but when you factor everything in I'm fine with it.

I guess I don't see how he fills a substantial need. Does a team with Lillard/McCollum need an extra playmaker off the bench? Splurging on a big of similar quality would have made more sense though idk how late into FA they signed Turner

Edit: if Turner ends up getting run with the starters more often he actually might be able to do some damage given who would end up defending him, but idk why the Blazers would do that barring injury