I haven't heard anyone talking smack JJ Barea today

I don't think getting Rondo has significant "we've made a huge mistake" type potential for Dallas, but it doesn't seem likely to push them into much bigger contenders either. I think it's a fine move to make just because the window is this year, and the commitment isn't deep.

wright isn't making them go from contender to non-contender, but these first few games where greg smith is playing 18 mpg as the backup are going to be ****ing brutal after watching bwright GOAT it up offensively.

rondos first start will be against the spurs which is interesting

nah b/c his 50% on those jumpers is preferable to the alternative of someone else shooting. 50% isn't good if you are getting it due to being wide open

edit: i'm just curious as to how much freedom carlisle intends to give rondo offensively. mavs have a lot of assisted baskets, but it's spread out a good amount among their players

dallas making pushes for JON, emeka, and worst case bernard james

i thought jon retired. wish the woyas would try to grab him so ezeli can hit the bricks


edit:

idk, this is a mitigating factor to the lack of an offensive fit, but it is far from ideal. that said, it's better than what they had defensively and i think that in general rondo's biggest benefit to them may be on d (even though i think he is w/e defensively)

Phil Jackson tweeted that Barkley was integral to the triangle and to shutup or something

What happened

chuck commentated the bulls/knicks game tonight. i watched uconn/duke instead so idk what he said exactly, but he no doubt fired shots at the knicks and prob their failure to run the triangle properly

he said that a team with over half its players on expiring contracts is going to be more concerned with putting up numbers than buying into "the triangle".

real talk:

rondo is way overrated. but he's not bad. the mavs major weakness was pg. rondo is undeniably a major upgrade over jammer.

having said that, bwright is legit good. and they now have dwight powell as the backup. is the marginal gain in 30mins from jameer to rondo more valuable than losing the ~15mins of super elite backup C mins from bwright to a random dleaguer? dunno.

i cant see this working out poorly, but it also doesn't move the needle much for them.

boston crushed.

Did Devin Harris get injured or something? He's a major upgrade over Jammer, and possibly an upgrade over Rondo. ALso it's not like JJB has been wasting away in that offense as well.

Devin+ JJB/BWright/Crowder off the bench >> Rondo + Devin/scrub/scrub off the bench imo, especially when you factor in the distinct possibility that Tyson Chandler isn't a pillar of health. If he goes down for let's say 6 weeks, it would be a struggle hanging onto that 8th spot.

Obviously great trade for boston

I mean if Rondo isn't working out they just trade him to the Kings for Stauskas Landry and Casspi

WORST TRADE EVER OMGBBQ

If u have hinkie> ainge ur a moron imo. Lol hinkie, gutted his roster and has a young core of injury prone scrubs. rondo: Isn't it paradise for him to be on an offensive team? Like he can be a steph curry who doesn't shoot and dal will be fine. Not hard to make deals for bench guys either tbh...

I didn't want this trade to happen, but it did. As I look further, it works for both.

Dal will never be in complete rebuild mode as long as Cuban is owner. And bos is, so getting picks and cheap, young talent for an expiring works.

Dal now has a starting five fit like a super squad. Rondo is obv an upgrade as a true pg (dal has shooters/scoring) and defense.

The downside is chemistry and losing rondo for bwright (who unbeknownst to us never played anyway) and crowder (live in wi, biased towards marquette players, ).

While it doesn't exactly scream "omg dal ships it!" It does upgrade their team and out west, anyone has a shot.

Anthony Davis, midrange shots
'12-'13: 64-218 (29.4%) on 4.3/36
'13-'14: 144-359 (40.1%) on 5.5/36
'14-'15: 77-160 (48.1%) on 6.8/36

Unfair.

'15-'16 : 3point contest champion

I would take 3:1 on Dallas making the 2nd round of playoffs.

I would lay 3:1 on Dallas making the playoffs.

I would bet on Dallas making 2nd round versus Dallas missing the playoffs at 1:1.

this has probably been mentioned already, but I just fully noticed it while looking over the standings...

Memphis 21-4
Houston 19-5
Dallas 19-8
San Antonio 17-9
New Orleans 12-12



This is the best division in NBA history, right? What about best division in the history of the big 4 sports?

Did TRG travel to tie the game vs spurs?

It's amazing how many guys spend so much time talking and analyzing basketball, have such incomprehensible opinions. I am one of the biggest BWright homers ever and have been begging RC to play him for years, think he's better than you guys probably know, and still think this trade is more than a slam dunk.

The funny thing is we add Monta, Parsons, JJ, and even Jameer, all moves which I'm sure were roundly ripped apart here, which all helped BWright get just about as many lobs as he wanted. Mavs have the best offense in the league, largely because of all of the moves they made that I'm sure you guys ripped to pieces.

1. I don't know what the definition of a "long shot" contender is, but I'd argue that 19-8 before the trade is pretty damn good. Obviously, teams 1-7 in the West (and OKC) are all excellent teams, but to make contender declarations 25 games into the season based on a few games difference in the standings is pretty silly. You really taking Golden State over the Spurs in the playoffs? Okkkay.

2. I don't think going out in the first round is an embarrassment at all in the West. All of these teams are very good and as of today, I would say there are 8 teams that could legitimately win the championship in the west. I thought the Mavs were a contender last year and almost knocked off SAS in 7 games. That's not an embarrassment at all, in my opinion.

I think you nailed it. He's an elite backup big who is worth a late first round pick. Late first round picks and backup bigs are not keys to winning championships. Love BWright and the element he brought to the offense, but backup centers all around the league are guys who aren't really very good. The Warriors are starting Festus Ezeli right now because their starter is out.

And to be honest, I'm kind of interested to see how much we improve on defense by playing someone more conventional. He made up for it against bad teams, but he got eaten alive on defense.

This. He's a pretty good help side defender, but he gets absolutely bullied in the post, even by guys who don't have much of a post game. In games against better opponents where offense is harder to come by, his defensive liability is hard to cover up. This is especially true because the Mavs have so many offensive weapons that they don't even use his full repertoire. (good jumpshot... potential at creating from free throw line extended off the dribble).

In a long list of dumb things said, this might be near the top. I used to think that you were just misguided, but this is a straight up troll. It's more like "Let's take the most high powered offense in the history of the game, who also sport one of the most terrible perimeter defenses in the history of the game, and replace the worst player, who was undersized and bad on defense and was shooting 39%, with a 28-year-old, 4 time all star, and arguably elite defensive point guard who is leading the league in assists."

I do. The answer is not at all.

I'm not sure if all of the hating going on is Rondo hate or Maverick hate, but from my perspective, this deal is so easy. You think you can give up a 20 minute a night center, a rarely used wing, and useless (to the Mavs) draft picks for a max level talent if he's playing like a superstar? No way. The Celtics suck, and if there is anyone in the NBA that doesn't seem to have much patience for sucking, it's Rajon Rondo.

Maybe none of you guys have been watching the Mavs or have seen just how bad their perimeter defense has been (not to mention rebounding). I have seen stretches of good, championship level defense, but I just don't think a quartet of Jameer/JJ/Devin/Monta is ever going to be able to consistently play quality D as a unit. Rondo is a game changer at by far their weakest position.

The funny thing is, I've seen Rajon Rondo rumors for over a year and not even wasted my time, because it was so unrealistic. Wright/Crowder/picks is exactly the type of crap you'd see posted on a Mavs message board where everyone laughs at you, because there is "no way you can pawn off your crap on other teams for superstars".

You meant to say Mavs had the best offense. They no longer do. Lol Rondo.

The Celtics had no choice and had to trade Rondo. In the last year of his deal, he wants max money and there would be no value in re-signing him with no talent around him. Celtics are loaded with draft picks through 2018 season but it is nearly impossible to build a contending team in the NBA via draft picks. Boston has solid potential young talent (Sullinger, Smart, Bradley) among a few others, but the most daunting task is finding star players to sign here. As a die hard C's fan I'll continue to bleed green but I hope this rebuild occurs sooner then later.

I can't stand rondo, especially since he pulled Hinrich down in the playoffs and insta backed down when Kirk rushed him. With that said, he's still a playoff force, he shines big in the big games, and he's much better than what they had.

So Boston gets a washed up point guard, a backup who is going to resign elsewhere after 60 games, and a 3.5ppg guard. Yeah, ainge has a low 1st rounder too, so what? Maybe now Boston loses to the bulls/wizards/raptors in 5 instead of 4.

USG%, TO%

'12-'13: 21.8%, 10.3%
'13-'14: 25.2%, 8.3%
'14-'15: 26.7%, 6.3%