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10-26-2013 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
Was watching SportsCenter a few hours ago & on the crawl on the left it said "Lakers Get Buckets".

My 1st thought was obviously wtf would the Bulls do that for? Then I realized I was dumb & turned off tv.
10-26-2013 , 08:34 AM
"The Raptors at Bucks game was canceled at the 5:58 mark in the first quarter for unsafe playing conditions.
Players were falling down all over the court and there's no reason to play out a preseason game. Almost half the Raptors that played were on the ground, so the Bucks might have some work to do on their new floor design. Their first home game isn't until Nov. 2, coincidentally against the Raptors, so hopefully they get this straightened out.
Oct 25 - 9:30 PM"


Yeah let's hope.
10-26-2013 , 09:12 AM
#feartheveneer?
10-26-2013 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
i think the dirty boges deal is pretty silly fwiw. what are the odds that he is healthy enough this year such that some team will be willing to pay more than that in FA? seems more likely that he has more injury issues and his value continues to erode.

otoh it's prob a good sign about his current state of health, so that's good news for teh woyas at least.

extremely high? centers always get paid


edit: i actually misread your question. obv i have no clue how likely he is to have a healthy year. however, he'd have gotten paid (at least) around this much regardless imo. and like i said b/f, i prefer this structure to a longer deal for less per year, but it seems like others would applaud a 5/9 deal or something like that

Last edited by tarheeljks; 10-26-2013 at 01:34 PM.
10-26-2013 , 01:43 PM
5 years at 9 per? no thanks.

i wouldnt wanna go more than two years after this season.
10-26-2013 , 02:51 PM
just crazy the sort of deal koufos got compared to the other centers. he's basically as good as they are.
10-26-2013 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
extremely high? centers always get paid


edit: i actually misread your question. obv i have no clue how likely he is to have a healthy year. however, he'd have gotten paid (at least) around this much regardless imo. and like i said b/f, i prefer this structure to a longer deal for less per year, but it seems like others would applaud a 5/9 deal or something like that
I think he struggles to get a deal longer than 3 years on the market.


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Originally Posted by Scherer716
5 years at 9 per? no thanks.

i wouldnt wanna go more than two years after this season.
The 9m sounds about right.
10-26-2013 , 02:58 PM
I don't understand how Bogut got what he got after just seeing what Bynum signed for. Id expect him to get more than Bynum, but still 36 million guaranteed is way too much imo.
10-26-2013 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Moneyball16
I don't understand how Bogut got what he got after just seeing what Bynum signed for. Id expect him to get more than Bynum, but still 36 million guaranteed is way too much imo.
I thought the 36 was with incentives but its 42+ after incentives, 36 guaranteed. That's a bit lol.
10-26-2013 , 03:17 PM
meh. the 12/per isnt a big concern imo, especially with the way the rosters salaries are currently constructed. again, its the 3 year commitment that begins after this season.

olds like timmay/kg took 10/11 per year and bogut is technically 8 years younger than them, but his body is is fragile and worn down a bit.

then there are younger stiffs like deandre and javale getting north of 10 per, and a semi-old tyson making 13+.

so the 12 per isnt bad.
10-26-2013 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Scherer716
meh. the 12/per isnt a big concern imo, especially with the way the rosters salaries are currently constructed. again, its the 3 year commitment that begins after this season.

olds like timmay/kg took 10/11 per year and bogut is technically 8 years younger than them, but his body is is fragile and worn down a bit.

then there are younger stiffs like deandre and javale getting north of 10 per, and a semi-old tyson making 13+.

so the 12 per isnt bad.
Like I said, "a bit". I'm rare to go full blown lulz when a lot of money gets thrown at a big, though.

Of course, if he can stay healthy to play 165+ games at 25+ MPG and be healthy for April/May, not knowing the incentives, it's a good deal. I'm still a firm believer in his talent. 200 games at ~30 MPG and it's a great deal at what seems like little more than $14m when he hits the incentives. That's LMA/Marc/Hibbert money, though.
10-26-2013 , 04:03 PM
got jazz lakers rebroadcast on. favors wasnt always this big in the upper body imo. 4yr 47 mil. i think they saw him and said yeah he is working hard lets make a deal with this guy.



yeah he and kanter have been working out with karl malone. derick is 22 now and much bigger than ^^
10-26-2013 , 04:20 PM
somebody close this **** out and start the nba thread. i dont do **** like that since i lack the technical stuff to link funny pics and nash heads and stuff. but look get it rollin so we can get a huge amount of posts this year like the old days. and no game threads imo, we stopped that at the end of last season and if we do it from the beginning we can get our totals up way above the euro football and well f it thats important 2 million years in the future they will see that and know the nba and tz rules.
10-26-2013 , 04:57 PM
Someone just make one and mods can edit in a good OP later
10-26-2013 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
just crazy the sort of deal koufos got compared to the other centers. he's basically as good as they are.
Either Masai is a genius or he's very lucky, or both. When KK signed that deal he wasn't getting any minutes behind their starting AIDS center, Mosgov. He signed right about the same time as Gallo, and I remember people (myself included) wondering why he got a 3 year deal when he barely played.

Then GK benched Moz and started playing KK, who had a very good second half of the season. So much so that the addition of him and Faried made the loss of Nene for Javale easier to swallow. This type of luck or whatever had the potential to turn the franchise around for years to come, then Connelly happened.
10-26-2013 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
Much rather pay 3/14 than 4 or 5 at 10/yr. Meshes better with other contracts. Also, if he stayed healthy he would he easily worth the $


What do you actually mean by saying securing a high floor team .
As in what have they foregone with these signings? Being over the cap is irrelevant , provided that the owner is cool with it. It's not like they gave up the chance to sign labron or something
Sorry for the late response. This is more the Iggy signing, which imo had a lot to do with locking Bogut up. Seems like they cast their lot with being about a 50ish win team with some 2nd/3rd round playoff equity but not much chance to get into serious contention with that move. Once they signed Iggy they pretty much have to give Bogut a nice contract because of what they gave up, and now they have little chance to improve.

Afa Bogut getting the same on the open market, I'm not seeing it. Tiago is better by any stretch and didn't get nearly as much, and neither did Bynum who's in a similar injury situation but is a much better center when healthy. If they let him play out the season, what's the worst case scenario? He beasts, GSW is successful, and they have to pay him the same amount or perhaps a little more. I don't think another team goes after him for that much unless they have room, which will almost always mean a worse team in a worse situation... GSW has major leverage here iyam... best fans in the game and a young, really good team.

I think the better would have been to take a small step back in order to take much larger steps forward. David Lee is a really good player, but the fit and his contract make him lose value to GSW, and I think their best move would have been to do whatever possible to remove themselves of that salary, and I think they could have had a few suitors who'd take him off their hands.

If they lost Lee, they'd probably win a little less than last year with Bogut being fairly healthy and another year for HBarnes, maybe like 42 games or so. Except now they'd be heading into next off-season with all their draft picks still + only about 27 million on the books and much more flexibility. I guess the point is Steph/HB/Klay/Brush is a very good, young, ridiculously cheap core that should be very easy to build around for a long time, and you don't need to make unnecessary gambles with that group imo.

Perhaps their unexpected success in the regular/postseason actually hurt them long term.
10-26-2013 , 05:37 PM
White Dwight has slipped below Joel Freeland on the depth chart. Ouch. Gotta up that PED dose pronto.
10-26-2013 , 05:57 PM
brandon rush was traded to utah in that salary dump, so they could sign iggy

      
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