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corey brewer typically looked terrible for the nuggs whenever i saw him

edit: though i'm sure he had his days. but that's pretty much the only system i can see him even looking that good in. up tempo and he gets lots of early clock looks which suits him b/c he is athletic, but you can see that he was still pretty inefficient (prob b/c he shot way too much). afflalo's skill are more transferable as long as you are talking about a low usg guy

honestly, afflaol's #'s in the orlando offense are weak, but they are still better than brewer's were and brewer was in a far superior offensive environment

Brewer is a fringe NBA player and AAA actually belongs in the league. Both clearly were positively effected by Karl's system.

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06-26-2013 , 02:25 AM

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at last, the offseason, we can watch Kyrie and Kobe play for 50k

Is this really going to happen, in front of cameras, uncut?

06-26-2013 , 02:39 AM

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Brewer is a fringe NBA player and AAA actually belongs in the league. Both clearly were positively effected by Karl's system.

AAA's usage shot up two years ago, and even then he was uber efficient for a guy who doesn't get to the line a lot. I don't think it's a stretch to see him back in the high 50's/low 60's TS in an offense with CP3/Griff. My biggest knock on him was that he appeared to play hard defense but the numbers never backed it up.

06-26-2013 , 02:56 AM

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Is this really going to happen, in front of cameras, uncut?

Not anymore with Kobe and his achilles unable to go

06-26-2013 , 02:56 AM

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Brewer is a fringe NBA player and AAA actually belongs in the league. Both clearly were positively effected by Karl's system.

afflalo benefitted from not having to create shots. the degree to which that's specific to karl's system is unclear, but the fact that he still had okish efficiency at much higher usg (~53% ts on 22% usg is not terrible) suggests that he's got some stuff going for him offensively and could return to being an extremely efficient player in a lesser role

edit: to be fair i think the ts/usg thing overstates his offensive skills a little bit, but i think the point stands. he didn't completely crumble like say ariza did when he went to houston

06-26-2013 , 03:37 AM

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Dean had a good post on the value of tanking into a strong draft. For teams that want to go in that direction, they need to get rid of positive players who are on the back end of their career.

The Warriors can help out a team in that spot. They've got Richard Jefferson with 1 yr / $11M left and Andris Biedrins with 1 yr / $9M left. That's quality tank material there, and enough salary to unload anybody.

I doubt GMs would be willing to make an obviously lopsided deal though, even though Wiggins equity is pretty compelling.

06-26-2013 , 03:59 AM

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Not anymore with Kobe and his achilles unable to go

oh yeah, ****

06-26-2013 , 08:13 AM

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pbt saying the bobcats are shopping mgk bc they think they can land otto.

pre-draft i was high on mgk, but after watching him, not so much. i guess it depends what they can get. i know some of the skypers are in love with him.

06-26-2013 , 08:23 AM

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pbt saying the bobcats are shopping mgk bc they think they can land otto.

pre-draft i was high on mgk, but after watching him, not so much. i guess it depends what they can get. i know some of the skypers are in love with him.

How can you hate a guy with these hops?

06-26-2013 , 08:25 AM

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That would be a very Bobcats/Hornets thing to do.

06-26-2013 , 08:27 AM

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mgk mkg, same thing. both are pretty meh at their professions.

eta: was reading about a new mgk mixtape coming out today, which is why i confused them. and i dont even listen to him.

06-26-2013 , 08:54 AM

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Yeah the Bobcats wanting to do that is great confirmation for me that MKG is an elite prospect and Otto Porter is not.

Magic and Wizards should be fighting over themselves to make that trade.

06-26-2013 , 09:56 AM

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all MKG needs is to learn how to shoot 3s (shot 75% from the line last season and is a workaholic, so shouldn't be too hard, though his stroke kinda sucks) and his "problems" (halfcourt offensive issues) should pretty much disappear. I mean, he was ****ty at the college 3-point line, so it would take a bit of work, but he has all the physical and mental tools to be an elite wing defender, plus he's already great in transition, and he's still 3 months shy of his 20th birthday.

He's probably drawing slim to be a "star", but I think that was always true.

06-26-2013 , 10:03 AM

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Yupp. Seeing how valuable this new breed of SF is (George, Kawhi, Butler), MKG should be sick considering he's more athletic and talented than all 3, and insanely young. If he can just start hitting corner 3's it's over.

I hope they trade him. Jordan is a cancerous influence on young players. If he had Thibs or Pops or something he'd be so ****ing good. Him and Wall in Washington would be an insane transition duo.

06-26-2013 , 10:17 AM

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Would love for da canz to take a pass at mkg if he is actually available, which seems absurd

06-26-2013 , 10:20 AM

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in for the lol Jordan.

06-26-2013 , 10:23 AM

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How is his handle?

06-26-2013 , 10:24 AM

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His handle is raw but definitely improving by the game. It's definitely better than Butler and Kawhi and probably will be better than George at some point soon.

06-26-2013 , 10:34 AM

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tut didnt you admit to not watching him/charlotte before?

06-26-2013 , 10:41 AM

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How is his handle?

Definitely raw/unpolished right now.

06-26-2013 , 10:49 AM

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tut didnt you admit to not watching him/charlotte before?

Definitely not. I watched a ton of him because I had season long prop bets.

06-26-2013 , 10:49 AM

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his halfcourt handle is kinda meh for a wing, but like most athletic guys he has good control of the ball out in transition. he doesnt handle the ball that much really.

nvm, mistook you for mcbeef.

edit: its def not jimmy butler bad. thats guys handle is the nut low.

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06-26-2013 , 11:13 AM

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His handle is raw but definitely improving by the game. It's definitely better than Butler and Kawhi and probably will be better than George at some point soon.

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Definitely raw/unpolished right now.

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Thanks for the replies.

I mean yeah, makes you wonder what exactly the Bobcats were expecting out of MKG in his rookie year. Granted I didn't follow last year's draft/college season at all basically, but I'm pretty sure the guy's rawness was well documented

06-26-2013 , 11:16 AM

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Yep, struggled in the halfcourt in college in the exact same way. Was legitimately inefficient in those situations despite his athletic advantage iirc. Couldn't punish defenders standing off, got a bucketload of charges called against him when he tried to force it.

Just a matter of making the shot a threat to keep defenders honest and enable effective shot fakes/blowbys.

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