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06-22-2016 , 01:33 PM
I really love Thon tbh. Obv he won't do squat right away but I'd be so pumped if the Bucks grab him in the 2nd round.

I predict he's picked in 20-25 range this year though
06-22-2016 , 01:40 PM
How is Denver younger than Minnesota? Median age that factors in Garnett, Andre Miller, and Tayshaun Prince? The wolves 3 leading scorers couldn't buy beer and their only starter not on a rookie contract was 24 year old Rubio.

This Gary Harris > Wiggins thing is starting to grate on me as well.
06-22-2016 , 01:49 PM
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So they are better, younger, and more talented... imo.
06-22-2016 , 01:55 PM
Rondo on a team where he doesn't need to do anything but facilitate? Yeah I like that. I don't want anything to do with GORDON. Only guys I'd consider for the 3 pick is Noel/Covington, Middleton, or Butler. Other than that I'm holding pat and taking the best player available. The 76ers would be dumb not to snap make a trade for the 3 pick.
06-22-2016 , 02:01 PM
Eddy,

Quiet. The adults are talking.
06-22-2016 , 02:02 PM
In. Go Bucks. Party all offseason, Cleveland, you deserve it.

2015-16 was the GOAT season. Let's continue it with the offseason.
06-22-2016 , 02:07 PM
Nit even though we are Bucks Homer's together,your love for CleBronLand really saddens me


Starting to hear Sabonis a lock for top 10. Yesterday I mentioned Raptors likely to take him at 9 but he could potentially go as high as 7.
06-22-2016 , 02:10 PM
All of this KD talk is silly. He's gonna re-sign with OKC and they're gonna title.
06-22-2016 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
How is Denver younger than Minnesota? Median age that factors in Garnett, Andre Miller, and Tayshaun Prince? The wolves 3 leading scorers couldn't buy beer and their only starter not on a rookie contract was 24 year old Rubio.

This Gary Harris > Wiggins thing is starting to grate on me as well.
That Gary Harris thing was taken out of context.

Minnesota's young core is:

Rubio/Kat/Wiggins/Lavine/Dieng

Denver's youth movement is:

Mudiay/Harris/Jokic/Nurkic

Avg age of Denver's is younger. Minny is obviously better at their best position, and I think Denver is better 2-5. When you factor in the experience of minutes played the difference is more stark. Their leading minute-getters and young core are younger, but that really wasn't the most important part of my argument. Even though Jokic was arguably better than KAT overall I don't think the projections are as nice for their 2-15 guys.

Denver missed more games than all but 2 other teams this year, and still managed to post a better win total and SRS playing their young guys about as much. What separates the two teams imo is that Denver is just deeper and have more assets. Gallo/Faried/Chandler/Barton are all decent to good players on friendly contracts which at worst helps them win game and at best serve as trade chips. Having 3 picks in the first round this year and a swap with Memphis next also adds more value and roster flexibility. That's why I think their future is brighter.

I could very well be wrong and Thibs turns their hugely negative players into big positives, but until I see it I don't think my argument is false. I'm not high on Wiggins and every point I make is with that in mind. I understand there are many who think he's going to be awesome, and if I was one of them then I'd absolutely be higher on Minnesota.
06-22-2016 , 02:24 PM
Suns sound like they want to move Bledsoe and get Dunn. I think Dunn is going to be taken 3rd as he's the 3rd best prospect in the draft so how does Phoenix move up 1 spot?

Just spit balling while bored at work but 4+ tyson for 3?


Personally, I think Ainge is taking Dunn as he doesn't plan to keep IT2 super long. Who knows.
06-22-2016 , 02:25 PM
Dood, every sentence in that post is wrong. I will post a reply if i can find the leisure time.
06-22-2016 , 02:28 PM
I'm about to go on vacation so I probably won't read it for a while. We will continue this conversation during the offseason though.

I'll probably offer some win total bets for this year but I want to wait until after draft night and free agency.
06-22-2016 , 02:40 PM
Go home seedowd, you're drunk
06-22-2016 , 02:42 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 20m20 minutes ago

Sources: Utah is sending the No. 12 pick in Thursday's Draft to Atlanta as part of deal that sends George Hill to Utah, Teague to Indy.
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 28m28 minutes ago

Three-way deal with Atlanta, Indiana and Utah, with George Hill going to the Jazz, league sources tell @TheVertical.
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 30m30 minutes ago

Atlanta is sending guard Jeff Teague to Indiana as part of a three-way deal, league sources tell @TheVertical.
06-22-2016 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CrunchyBlack
Go home seedowd, you're drunk
Wouldn't be the first time.

I guess Utah really isn't trading Gordon.
06-22-2016 , 02:50 PM
dunno who I like that trade most for. but i think it's a rare trade where all 3 teams seem to get what they want

without thinkin too much probably utah>atlanta>indy but i really do like it for all. Teague/Monta will be an interesting fit, curious to see how they stagger that backcourt. Teague/Turner p&r will be sick though.
06-22-2016 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Christophersen
Suns sound like they want to move Bledsoe and get Dunn. I think Dunn is going to be taken 3rd as he's the 3rd best prospect in the draft so how does Phoenix move up 1 spot?

Just spit balling while bored at work but 4+ tyson for 3?


Personally, I think Ainge is taking Dunn as he doesn't plan to keep IT2 super long. Who knows.
That trade idea is nuts. Suns should have to pay someone to take on the Chandler contract. It's not an asset.
06-22-2016 , 02:56 PM
The trade is probably best for any team looking for an elite PF who can stretch the floor and get his hands on balls in the PnR. This has to mean Horford is gone, and Millsap suddenly provides no use for that squad except to lottoblock.

Boston should be getting on the horn now imo, they could end up with Atlanta's front court before all is said and done.

Although it improves Utah I think it caps their ceiling a bit... not a bad thing though.
06-22-2016 , 02:58 PM
I feel like there should be more to this trade. Why didnt UTA just do 12 for Teague? That seems like a better option
06-22-2016 , 03:01 PM
Pacers move George Hill for Teague - they get a bit younger and idk Teague contact but it sounds like he's open to re-sign with them or extend.

Jazz give up 12th pick for Hill. On the surface a big win imo but what rights on Hill do they acquire? He's now on the wrong side of 30 and expiring. 1 year of him to help squeak into the playoffs is bad.

Pacers - big news is Dennis show begins. 12th pick can go a lot of ways but I would not be surprised if they go for somebody who might contribute right away like Valentine. I don't think this means they are tanking just readjusting. Horford could very well be out though.
06-22-2016 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JHair
I feel like there should be more to this trade. Why didnt UTA just do 12 for Teague? That seems like a better option
they're huge on 3 & D. prob feel like they have enough creation in Burks/Heyward. Hill fits pretty damn well next to those two. maybe also want to leave room for Exum in case he breaks out this year?
06-22-2016 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
That Gary Harris thing was taken out of context.

Minnesota's young core is:

Rubio/Kat/Wiggins/Lavine/Dieng

Denver's youth movement is:

Mudiay/Harris/Jokic/Nurkic

Avg age of Denver's is younger.
Why are you including Rubio and Dieng but not Gallo/Faried/Barton in comparing ages? I wouldn't consider any of those guys young but if you're going to include the mid 20s players for Minnesota, you should probably include it for Denver as well when doing an age comparison.
06-22-2016 , 03:05 PM
Yeah my guess is Utah preferred Hill or Teague refused to say he'd work out a deal to stay and maybe Hill will.
06-22-2016 , 03:07 PM
Kind of sad Bucks didn't do #10 for Teague. He signed with us before as a RFA so he must be okay with playing in Milwaukee.
06-22-2016 , 03:13 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA
Knicks and Bulls are in advanced talks on a deal to send Derrick Rose to New York, sources tell @ShamsCharania and me.

can't wait for the howard/rose combo so we can party like we're in 2011

      
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