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06-18-2014 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mcb33f
who's up for modern day nba drafting? also, dynasty or single season. dynasty is cool because there's more legit teams due to opposite drafting strats (old v young etc), but drafting for next year only means there's better info and we can discuss with more certainty

personally i'd prefer a single season draft collaborative style (like assani's last draft where we argue then vote). dynasty just doesn't give the same potential for discussion imo

will need someone with the votecounting script to get involved plz

i'll make it after a few people IN

nickp27 already in
i think yearly (in the summer) we should do a 5 year window draft. fine with only doing starting 5 or fine with adding up to 8 on the team. i think this format (along with the whole 'judges guesstimate ring equity') is the best we ever did or can do (sans the crazy dynasty hypothetical ones).
06-18-2014 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
so i didnt realize that the cheapskate heat amnestied mike miller and then failed to use their mle.

pretty sure gilbert would spend what it takes when competing for a title.
Ya pretty dumb. When you have a title winner or whatnot, you should use what you can at your disposal.
06-18-2014 , 04:28 AM
So Gilbert just needs to hire Riles and Cleveland wins chips upon chips.
06-18-2014 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Tax-wise, does Lebron save a ton of money on his endorsement income by living in Florida vs a state with income tax?
Yea he does. And all Texas teams players benefit as well
06-18-2014 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Christophersen
Yea he does. And all Texas teams players benefit as well
I know there are a bunch of rules about how long you are in a state per year but what stops them from having those same benefits by simply having their main residence in Florida /Texas
06-18-2014 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwallie
I know there are a bunch of rules about how long you are in a state per year but what stops them from having those same benefits by simply having their main residence in Florida /Texas
Derek Jeter tried to do this years ago and succesfully did it starting recently with a homestead extension on his FL property.

This link is relevant: http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonyn...oon-to-follow/
06-18-2014 , 12:44 PM
He pays taxes on games based on location of game, so that would be less when 41 home games are in a tax state instead of in a tax-free state

But endorsements can be somewhere else...he prolly does those through a corporation that is incorporated in a state he doesn't even live in
06-18-2014 , 01:43 PM
From the Boston Herald

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One source indicated Denver and Golden State have both made more intriguing offers, and there are other teams very much in the picture, as well. There have been conflicting reports on whether the Warriors would make Klay Thompson available, but the Wolves are said to be confident they can find a more than acceptable deal there.

And while Minnesota has certainly discussed trading Love, who, without a contract extension, can be an unrestricted free agent next summer, it's also possible that Flip Saunders, the club's coach and president of basketball operations, could choose to keep his best player a little longer. The thinking would be that either the Wolves improve and make Love want to stay or that a better deal will present itself before next season's trade deadline.
Please don't be giving up all this for a one year rental
06-18-2014 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by aejones
i think yearly (in the summer) we should do a 5 year window draft. fine with only doing starting 5 or fine with adding up to 8 on the team. i think this format (along with the whole 'judges guesstimate ring equity') is the best we ever did or can do (sans the crazy dynasty hypothetical ones).
This makes sense

It'll be nice to see how players move in draft position over the years if all the rules remain the same each year (e.g., always 5 year dynasty)
06-18-2014 , 02:28 PM
In for draft
06-18-2014 , 02:35 PM
JB back and calling all games for the dubs next year!
06-18-2014 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Bosh absolutely could be a top ~3 PF in the league. He chooses not to. He deserves some credit for working so hard to transform himself into a player that fits the team needs more, from an offensively versatile 4 to a stretch 5. The only problem is that he transformed himself into a much worse overall player.

I would expect if Lebron leaves and he and Wade stay that Bosh will rebound significantly to being a legit AS-caliber player
He's already much more than a legit all star caliber player as the beginning of your post implies

His defense has just been incredible as well, very smart , always right spot
06-18-2014 , 02:47 PM
How much is josh mcroberts looking to make this offseason
06-18-2014 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by THAKID
He's already much more than a legit all star caliber player as the beginning of your post implies

His defense has just been incredible as well, very smart , always right spot
I love Bosh, but seeing him in the post with Tony Parker guarding was pretty sad.
06-18-2014 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
From the Boston Herald



Please don't be giving up all this for a one year rental
What do you, our resident Nugget TZ GM, think an intriguing offer might be with Denver for KLove?
06-18-2014 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by john voight
But if pop coached phx, they would won more games. And if horny coached SA they would have won fewer games/rang.
That is a great point. very accurate. However, if COTY was given to "the coach of the year" then Popovich would win most of them.

Since COTY is just whoever had the better season, i'd give Horny an honorable mention and 2nd place vote even though this award goes to whoever has the best record. I mean, Scotty "half court" brooks won it a couple years ago..
06-18-2014 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
I love Bosh, but seeing him in the post with Tony Parker guarding was pretty sad.
So what
He shoots 3s and plays great defense and is a major mismatch

The heat would be awful without him
06-18-2014 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
Ya pretty dumb. When you have a title winner or whatnot, you should use what you can at your disposal.
Damn didnt realize that at all
They could have used MLE for 2013 off season ?!?!

Pretty steamed up
06-18-2014 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by THAKID
How much is josh mcroberts looking to make this offseason
Bueler?
06-18-2014 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
What do you, our resident Nugget TZ GM, think an intriguing offer might be with Denver for KLove?
No freaking clue, depends on what Boston's deal includes.

Assuming it's the 6th pick + Gerald Green, Denver would have to ship #11 + Faried + Wilson Chandler + take back salary via their TPE or something like that. Or it could involve Gallo which would be dumb imo.

But if it's a "swing for the fences" deal, which imo is the only way Denver should get involved, they should offer:

#11
Wilson Chandler
Darrell Arthur
Quincy Miller
Nate Robinson
2016 #1 which is the better of theirs or NYKs (who could really suck then)

And take back KMart2 via their TPE

Minny gets a slightly worse pick this year, but they drop their worst contract and get a potentially awesome pick in a couple years + a bunch of expirings and a player (Chandler) that they could possibly flip for something as well. This might be more intriguing to Boston because perhaps they are coveting someone who falls into that range to begin with?

I really don't know, but now I'm hearing it in other places.
06-18-2014 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmsg
No way Lebron goes back to Cleveland. He obviously cares very much about his personal branding/life style and does not want to live in Cleveland. Nobody does.

Cleveland is the only team he could go to where his public image will improve, if he cares about that at all. Any other choice, and that sports nation poll will always be exactly the same as this year. Forty-nine states cheering against him and wherever he's at cheering for him.


If he went to Houston he might not even be able to carry Texas because of Spurs and Mavs fans. While I don't think he's thin-skinned, it can't be fun to be hated when you're great. There has never been an all-time great hated like he is, and I don't think he's Chael Sonnen, where he enjoys being villified.

Winning has always cured that for everyone else, but it hasn't for him. He's like ARod level, but didn't cheat and is a generally nice kid. I think he'll stay in Miami for another year.

Really interesting to see what Wade does with his contract. If he opts out, you know Lebron is coming back and Dwayne is making a friendlier deal for the Heat to add talent. If he opts in, then anything is possible, but it's all downhill for the Heat.

Really bad spot for Wade. He has always been beloved, but if he opts in, LBJ leaves, they are going to turn on him real fast. I think he'll opt out and play for a discount, but that's a bitter pill to swallow when you put the whole thing together and NBA franchises are appreciating at record rates.

He opts out, makes a Heat friendly deal, and then all 3 can pressure Arrison to pay large luxury tax bill to add talent if they are willing to sacrifice. He'll have no choice, because no one wants to hear owners whine about luxury tax when the Bucks sold for $600 million and Clips for $2 billion. Bosh is already on record as loving Miami and willing to play for a discount.

That's the only way I see it where it's at all sustainable for multiple years.
06-18-2014 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
JB back and calling all games for the dubs next year!
... Jon Barry?

Edit: Oh, Jim Barnett. Was his status up in the air?
06-18-2014 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by napoleoninrags2
Cleveland is the only team he could go to where his public image will improve...
What if he goes to Milwaukee or Minnesota?
06-18-2014 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Halstad
What if he goes to Milwaukee or Minnesota?
People would like him more, but think he's insane. Same crap lifestyle, no redemption story. But point taken, he can't go to anyone good and be embraced by the masses. Better staying put.
06-18-2014 , 06:02 PM
Lebron + TWolves wins for sure. He should do that imo

      
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