Probably have to add something to get get 5 and 10 from the Kings. Maybe they'd bite on Okafor or add a 2nd or something. Would do this though and take Isaac and Donovan Mitchell.

Would also be interested in some kind of deal around CJ McCollum and the 3rd pick. Saw this deal proposed:

CJ + 15 for 3 + Saric

Which side says no? I'm thinking Philly even though I'm lower on Saric than most but interested in outsider opinions with less bias.

McCollum is a pretty ideal fit for us next to Simmons and we'd be able to hide him on defense. Then could use the 15 pick and Okafor or 2nds to try and move up a few spots to grab Mitchell.

There were no symptoms of a struggle in college, and Kevin Martin had a similar NBA release without a problem. What evidence is there to support that it may be a genuine problem?

Winslow has great basketball IQ. His entire problem is that he can't make shots from anywhere, even in the paint (his height may be a hindrance here).

Jackson will not share that problem at 6'8" with great touch near the rim. His closest comp is Aaron Gordon, which is tricky to conclude much from. As as sophomore Gordon appeared to be on the path to stardom, now he looks like merely a pretty good prospect so shrug.

Celtics picking Ball would be a dream scenario for the Lakers. They could then take Fultz and probably get Ball in 4-6 years when Ball forces his way on to the Lakers

Dean, could Winslow run Point-Forward like Jackson?

Jackson makes some truly elite passes in full and half court. I don't remember JW doing either. Of course, there's more to BBIQ than running the offense/passing, but they're large components.

How do you have such an awkward release like Ball?

Seems like nowadays an elite prospect like that wouldn't be allowed to develop such a terrible "habit"

this is why i lean JJ over tatum/fox or trading down trying to get monk or markkanen. i think his interior game is the ideal pairing with a high embiid usage rate. if the trade market is strong, then they can aim for monk and just stick him at the 2, but you can find enough good value guys in the free agent market who you can slot in as flamethrowers (reddick comes to mind if his market isn't too steep).

a second creator (maybe third depending on simmons) that can clean up the glass with embiid, it's sorta like the OKC archetype but you have slightly better 3 point shooting and a similarly absurd defense/OReb potential.

I'm pessimistic about Saric making big leaps. He's fairly old and isn't athletic or long. He gets by on IQ and effort. He's not a great shooter, not an efficient scorer, not good at getting to the line, not good at finishing at the rim, and not good at defense. He wasn't even a particularly good playmaker even though it's supposed to be one of his strengths because of his high turnover rate. He's more aesthetics than production.

His skillset is also marginalized on a team that already has Simmons. He's not doing much for your offense if he doesn't have the ball in his hands, and he's a liability on the other end.

Saric reminds me of an Evan Turner/Terrence Williams type.

Good enough to do a lot of things, but none of them at the NBA level for a good team.

Spacing with both Jackson and Simmons on the floor seems terrible. I strongly believe that 3 of your 4 non-center players need to be at least a threat from 3, and I'm skeptical that Jackson or Simmons will be.

So what should the Sixers do then?

I don't believe in Jackson either; Fox is bad from 3 in college. So go with Monk even though he's a lesser talent than Jackson/Fox? I doubt they can get Fultz/Ball at the 3 pick. I'd love to trade down but are the Kings that stupid in this draft to do that?

kevin martin is a weird comp. they share a funky release, but martin made it work b/c he had a ton of savvy as a 1 on 1 scorer. got to the rim and the line a ton. he was also not a ball handler

I like the trade for CJ, but feel that Portland's FO is too incompetent to pull that off.

They should try to complete a trade similar to the one I mentioned with the Blazers for CJ. If one side needs more, you can involve either the Leonard contract or Okafor/future OKC 1st/2nds or Portland's 20 or 26 picks. Shouldn't be too difficult to come up with a solution.

Failing that, they should try to trade down and take Isaac, and then try and trade back up into the 10-12 range for whoever is left. I'm sure a deal can be found somewhere.

Kinda grunching but using Avery Bradley as evidence that Josh Jackson will be fine is really bad. For every Avery Bradley bink there's 100 misses.

Sticking with Ainge, he also drafted JR Giddens, an undersized wing who rebounded like crazy and couldn't shoot. Guess what, he never learned to shoot.

yeah, i mean, this.

He also drafted Rondo and Allen, two guys who can't shoot, but atleast they panned out anyway.

That was why the Olynyk pick surprised me so much. Ainge usually drafts for upside, athleticism and he just took an NBA ready guy without much of either despite the fact the team was in rebuilding mode.

Assuming Ball and Fultz gone, why not just take Markkanen and play with Embiid and Simmons?

I don't disagree with any of these points, I'm just saying give him another year in the NBA to develop. A guy coming from overseas learning a new culture and a new system may need more than a year to fully gel and find their role. You can end up with a league average stretch 4 or a super +EV bench player on a rookie contract for 3 years. That's pretty valuable when you're trying to find a player or two to max.

McCollum could be a really good fit with this team, so maybe your trade idea is better than I was thinking... I dunno, just depends on the FA market for the 2 guards and whatever the 6ers are planning on doing with Simmons + their PG situation. Too many cluster **** roster decisions. I think taking SAC's 5th and 10th picks is way > POR's McCollum+15 for 3+Saric.

I am skeptical as well, and it goes back to the argument of trading down and trying to get Monk.

However, if you run hot and they both happen to be good from 3 AND Embiid stays healthy, that's an insane lineup. Also a lineup that can be an effective counter to the pace/space 3 pointer teams the league is evolving into. You wanna go small? Sweet, we have Embiid and offensive rebounders. OKC almost did it to GSW with the formula. Yeah they had Durant, but if Embiid stays healthy you don't need Durant on the wing to be a playoff contender.

I was thinking about this possibility too. I like it.

Moe Wagner returning to Michigan. Good decision for him imo, think he would have been a second rounder

Of course Monk is the best fit for Philly but value wise he just not there. While Philly has a lot of nice pieces they are still far away from competing in the playoffs. I firmly believe they should take the BPA & For me thats Jackson. While his shot is up in the air, hes got everything else going for him. At worst hes a good role player, at best hes Paul George IMO.

http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/5...ideration-at-3

Pretty good why sixers should consider Tatum article. Author still says he wouldnt take him just that he would consider him, but good article anyways.

Kings could potentially get one of JJ/Tatum/Markannen/Isaac + Dennis Smith Jr, who has potential to be the sleeper of the Draft, or Frank. They seem set up nicely to safely have a good draft as long as they don't do something stupid like draft Zach Collins.

Fired up a big board update:

https://deanondraft.com/2017/05/25/b...rd-update-525/

Agree with this. Josh Jackson hate is getting a bit out of control, guy is super athletic + competitive and rocks at everything but shooting

I'm back on the Ball is trash bandwagon.