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04-14-2017 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Is it me, or does this draft seem pretty sucky after the first ten or so picks? I know it's supposed to be great at the top and I sort of agree, but overall I'm not feeling this as much as it was originally hyped.
Has there been any draft past that point that's hyped with sure fire stars/role players? Seems like every draft has about 7 or 8 guys highly spoken of then it's a crap shoot for then on.
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04-14-2017 , 09:56 PM
Seadood never noticed before because the nuggs usualky pick in the top 7. Now he's sitting at like 14 right where the talent goes to crap. Pistons are in the same boat gotta hope for some late risers.
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04-14-2017 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Is it me, or does this draft seem pretty sucky after the first ten or so picks? I know it's supposed to be great at the top and I sort of agree, but overall I'm not feeling this as much as it was originally hyped.
your team has to learn how to tank better

otoh .. What happened to that one game against Portland? You ended up 40-42 and them 41-41. If you win that then you are 41-41 and they are 40-42. So maybe I was correct that that was the crucial game for you.

NurkGOAT
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04-16-2017 , 09:37 AM
I cant remember this many people being live to be selected first overall this close to the draft

A couple months out and Fultz, Fox, Jackson, Lonzo, and Tatum are alll very real possibilities there.

2 years ago we knew it was KAT in either January or February, we knew it was Simmons basically the entire year last year.
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04-16-2017 , 10:10 AM
#1 has gotta be fultz or ball. maybe jackson has tiny tiny outs but no way is it tatum or fox

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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Is it me, or does this draft seem pretty sucky after the first ten or so picks? I know it's supposed to be great at the top and I sort of agree, but overall I'm not feeling this as much as it was originally hyped.
ya this draft becomes trash the moment zach collins goes off the board
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04-16-2017 , 10:52 AM
Dean,
Thoughts on Zach Collins' comps?

New Big Board in the offing?

Thanks!
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04-16-2017 , 01:18 PM
i dunno-- something akin to staps but slightly more oriented toward interior scoring

big board is going to be something like

1. lonzo
2. fultz
3. jj
4-8. lauri/isaac/fox/tatum/collins in any order
9. monk
10. dsj
11-60. doesn't matter everybody is now trash

and that is everything to be known about this year's draft.
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04-16-2017 , 01:34 PM
If that ends up being the top 10 i hope the pistons take one of the wildcards in Ntilikina or Ferguson. Really hoping for Ntilikina as of today. At least Ferg should be a solid a off the bench shooter which is at least somewhat useful. Really dont want any of the big men or J.Jackson that are going after them.

Theirs still a good chance theirs going to be a jump out the gym athlete or two that shoots up the draft board to entice the kings or knicks into making a mistake in the top 10 as well.
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04-16-2017 , 02:17 PM
Swanigan, Ojeleye, Peters, Rabb, Kennard are some guys outside the top 10 that could be solid bench contributors from the start of their careers, with upside to be more. I'm not sure where to rate D.J. Wilson, he's very athletic and can shoot but also inexperienced.
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04-16-2017 , 04:45 PM
PETERS is sick. Gonna be Love pretty much the second he hits the league (stylistically).
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04-16-2017 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
i dunno-- something akin to staps but slightly more oriented toward interior scoring

big board is going to be something like

1. lonzo
2. fultz
3. jj
4-8. lauri/isaac/fox/tatum/collins in any order
9. monk
10. dsj
11-60. doesn't matter everybody is now trash

and that is everything to be known about this year's draft.
I'll be very surprised if Frank doesn't get taken in the top 10 - ofc the lottery will have some effect on desires
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04-24-2017 , 08:08 AM
Hamidou Diallo have any shot of going in the 1st round?
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04-24-2017 , 11:02 AM
I'd think not. He's undersized and is apparently a terrible shooter. Should prob. stay in school, esp. considering the depth this year. He's probably enjoying some free publicity with these "none and done" headlines and will un-declare.
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04-24-2017 , 11:10 AM
Yeah doubt he stays in unless hes promised to be in the first round. Hes for sure got Kentucky sweating right now though.
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04-28-2017 , 12:55 PM
I think Jazz will snap Rudy Gobert son with the 30th pick

Jonathan Jeanne, born on the same island, same body, quicker on his feet, every tools to become an ace pick & roll defender

Only Red flag

Spoiler:
has Beasley eyes

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04-29-2017 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by th14
Swanigan, Ojeleye, Peters, Rabb, Kennard are some guys outside the top 10 that could be solid bench contributors from the start of their careers, with upside to be more. I'm not sure where to rate D.J. Wilson, he's very athletic and can shoot but also inexperienced.
Swanigan's ceiling is putting up a 18/14 season on an 18 win team some day
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05-13-2017 , 04:14 PM
Dean you familiar with pj dozier at all? Assume he'll be a late second rounder if he gets drafted but curious if you've looked at him at all
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05-13-2017 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 8bus
Dean you familiar with pj dozier at all? Assume he'll be a late second rounder if he gets drafted but curious if you've looked at him at all
He had him as 34th on his last posted big board...

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PJ Dozier and Dazon Ingram are a couple of 6’5″ SEC lead guards who do a little bit of everything. They may not be athletic and skilled enough to be lead guards in the NBA or shoot well enough to play off the ball, but are intriguing*2nd round gambles nevertheless.
But he can probably give you more detailed thoughts.

Deanondraft.com

/shill
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05-13-2017 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by th14
Swanigan, Ojeleye, Peters, Rabb, Kennard are some guys outside the top 10 that could be solid bench contributors from the start of their careers, with upside to be more. I'm not sure where to rate D.J. Wilson, he's very athletic and can shoot but also inexperienced.
Donovan Mitchell too
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05-14-2017 , 01:10 AM
Chad Ford(yeah yeah I know) is reporting that there's a decent shot that no one who goes in the top 20 will agree to workout for the Kings despite them owning 2 lottery picks. This is after Wade Baldwin being the highest profile guy to workout for them last year.

Rough times for the Kings.
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05-14-2017 , 04:27 AM
I would go and tank the workout
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05-14-2017 , 12:15 PM
Mavs- Malik Monk or Dennis Smith Jr
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05-14-2017 , 12:46 PM
Zach Colllins over those jabrones.
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05-14-2017 , 06:49 PM
I've loved him as a college player all year, but I'm starting to fully drink the Kool Aid on Donovan Mitchell.

Here's the Draft Express write up on his combine
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Louisville Sophomore Guard Donovan Mitchell impressed on day one of the Combine with his huge 6'10 wingspan measurement, and he continued to leave his mark on day two, posting the highest standing vertical leap at 36.5. That number matches the marks of Iman Shumpert and former NBA Dunk Contest Champion Glen Robinson III. Mitchell also posted the fastest three-quarter court sprint time at just 3.01 seconds, which is the quickest time since Sonny Weems ran a 2.96 at the 2008 Combine. His 40 ½ inch max vertical was the fourth best at the Combine, and he also shot the ball well in the drills we watched. Mitchell, who just recently signed with an agent, has certainly boosted his stock with some elite physical and athletic testing - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...analysis-5930/ ©DraftExpress

He shot 35% from 3 and 80% from the FT line this year. I think he was best running a high PnR offensively as a playmaker(where his tight handle and body control/athleticism shine while attacking the rim) despite playing off the ball a lot at Louisville. Some of his best games came in a stretch where Louisville's starting PG was hurt and Mitchell ran a lot of point - vs Clemson, @Pitt, vs NC State.

For some reason DX doesn't have a strengths/weakness video(that I can find at least ) of him like they've always had in years past of all the prospects. They just have one video breakdown of his single game vs Indiana.





EDIT: Found some of his PnR numbers (http://www.sportschannel8.com/top-8-...spects-part-2/)
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Mitchell has really evolved as a shot-maker and creator. Mitchell’s three-point accuracy jumped 12 percent, and 54.5 percent of his “unguarded” catch-and-shoot opportunities this season, according to Synergy. Mitchell could slice up a defense with his passes as well; when the sophomore was a passer in pick-and-rolls, his teammates shot an impressive 54.5 percent.

Mitchell’s in-between game could use some work, however; he’s shot just 27.6 percent on runners, according to Synergy, and 32 percent on jumpers inside 17 feet. Mitchell is 60 percent jet fuel, so he will always be able to get to the rim, but in the NBA that becomes much more challenging and painful. If he’s running pick-and-rolls on the next level, this midrange attack game will need some work.
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His defense will always be a boon for him, too. Mitchell ranks 34th nationally in steal rate, per KenPom; roughly four percent of opponents’ possessions end with a steal when Mitchell is on the floor. Additionally, opponents have shot just 27.9 percent on spot-ups and 21.1 percent on pick-and-rolls defended by Mitchell, per Synergy

Last edited by ReddBoiler; 05-14-2017 at 07:17 PM.
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05-14-2017 , 06:56 PM
As someone who bet Louisville a lot this year I do not like Mitchell at all. Terrible shot selection, meh handle, careless with the ball. Doesn't seem like a guy good enough to be the best option on a team but also doesn't seem good enough at any one thing to be a quality role player.
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