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03-12-2017 , 08:07 PM
Collins can't create at all, MAY develop an outside shot, and sucks at defense.

There have to be better gambles in late lotto.
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03-12-2017 , 08:09 PM
are there any recent power forwards or centers that never shot the 3 in college and translated into non horrendous 3 pt shooting in the pros?

only one i can find is dante cunningham
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03-12-2017 , 08:13 PM
Cousins
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03-12-2017 , 08:16 PM
Meyers Leonard
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03-12-2017 , 08:20 PM
Embiid
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03-12-2017 , 08:20 PM
Every time I read "Ntilikina" I hear Ayo for Yayo in my head
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03-13-2017 , 06:56 AM
About that Ntilikina's game

Dude is a beast on defense, opponents couldn't score against line-ups that incldued him

-He's very good at the full court press
-He can switch on 1/2/3 (Physical NBA SF will wreck him though)

On Offense he looked really shy, he is efficient at what he does, but just mostly stayed off the ball yesterday (2nd Guard of the team was having a great night though)

Overall he'll probably be a Patrick Beverley with more ball handling skills/George Hill at the beginning of his career, with some all Star potential if he gains confidence offensively
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03-13-2017 , 06:22 PM
appreciate the report guivre

dx has changed their layout, the site was long overdue for an upgrade so for that, but they def need to need at least the lottery (full first round ideally) visible for easy clicking on the sidebar, right now only the top 5 is immediately accessible from the front page
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03-13-2017 , 06:41 PM
i cant find any of the measurements like wingspan/standing reach/etc
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03-13-2017 , 06:53 PM
Does Tatum have a shot at being selected first? He's looked like Carmelo the past couple weeks.
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03-13-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler
Does Tatum have a shot at being selected first? He's looked like Carmelo the past couple weeks.
There's some cognative dissonance here. cf. the many threads discussing the lolKnacks and Melissa.

Also, the answer is no: because Ball, Flutz
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03-13-2017 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by guivre1408
About that Ntilikina's game

Dude is a beast on defense, opponents couldn't score against line-ups that incldued him

-He's very good at the full court press
-He can switch on 1/2/3 (Physical NBA SF will wreck him though)

On Offense he looked really shy, he is efficient at what he does, but just mostly stayed off the ball yesterday (2nd Guard of the team was having a great night though)

Overall he'll probably be a Patrick Beverley with more ball handling skills/George Hill at the beginning of his career, with some all Star potential if he gains confidence offensively
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appreciate the report guivre
+1

I think Frank is the Knicks #1 pick if they don't win the lotto
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03-13-2017 , 08:22 PM
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i cant find any of the measurements like wingspan/standing reach/etc
yeah having browsed a bit more the upgrade made the site worse unfortunately
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03-13-2017 , 11:34 PM
i'm sure everyone going nuts over tatum was very psyched about big-balls buddy hield this time last year and already forgot about it
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03-14-2017 , 12:34 AM
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i'm sure everyone going nuts over tatum was very psyched about big-balls buddy hield this time last year and already forgot about it
Whats your point? The two dont seem similar at all.
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03-15-2017 , 06:34 AM
Really no comparison between Buddy and Tatum. Buddy was a old guy dominating in college.

Tatums a 19 yo who was a top 5 prospect in a loaded class. He started the season injured which could explain his slow start to the season. Now were seeing the dude get better and better as the season goes on. Hes a full year younger then Josh Jackson.

I think right now Fultz/Ball/Jackson/Tatum are top tier. If Tatum dominates through the tourney got to be a chance he goes #1. Not saying its likely but for sure a possibility.
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03-15-2017 , 08:41 AM
Never heard of this guy before ISAIAH HARTENSTEIN PF

Then I spat my cock out when I saw his line

Spoiler:
0.5 POINTS 1.0 REBOUNDS 0.3 ASSISTS -5.6 PER
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03-15-2017 , 07:16 PM
watched wake KSU yesterday, i remember somebody writing a few months back that crawford was a better prospect than collins. got to say i agree. collins just looked lost defensively. deft touch, but jahlil had deft touch too. i dont understand the hype behind him. seems like his only future is to learn how to become tristan thompson, otherwise he gets marginalized.

crawford meanwhile had really good vision on his passes, did a little bit of everything, has good stats. i think he should go late 1st round, which seems to contradict a fair amount of mock drafts.

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03-15-2017 , 07:19 PM
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Really no comparison between Buddy and Tatum. Buddy was a old guy dominating in college.

Tatums a 19 yo who was a top 5 prospect in a loaded class. He started the season injured which could explain his slow start to the season. Now were seeing the dude get better and better as the season goes on. Hes a full year younger then Josh Jackson.

I think right now Fultz/Ball/Jackson/Tatum are top tier. If Tatum dominates through the tourney got to be a chance he goes #1. Not saying its likely but for sure a possibility.
yeah i made a poor analogy, just trying to say lets not overhype a guy for top status based on a six game sample size. would still take ball or fultz even if tatum crushed.

Last edited by Clayton; 03-15-2017 at 07:26 PM.
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03-15-2017 , 11:46 PM
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yeah i made a poor analogy, just trying to say lets not overhype a guy for top status based on a six game sample size. would still take ball or fultz even if tatum crushed.
For the record i would to. I was just saying if Tatum Melos the tourney and then a team with the first pick feels settled at pg grabs him it wouldnt be the most shocking thing ive seen happen.
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03-16-2017 , 02:16 AM
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yeah i made a poor analogy, just trying to say lets not overhype a guy for top status based on a six game sample size. would still take ball or fultz even if tatum crushed.
again this is still a bad example, Tatum was a top 3-4 recruit whos an elite athlete with amazing tools. No one is overrating him based on a 6 game sample.
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03-16-2017 , 10:25 AM
suggesting he go #1 if he crushes the tournament when ball and fultz are still breathing would be the definition of overrating him based on a 6 game sample in my opinion.

in any case, this is not the island i want to defend for multiple posts, i will admit my take is garbage and move on.

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For the record i would to. I was just saying if Tatum Melos the tourney and then a team with the first pick feels settled at pg grabs him it wouldnt be the most shocking thing ive seen happen.
what team is settled enough at pg to pass on ball/fultz? i dont think theres one.
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03-16-2017 , 10:41 AM
only team i guess is portland. just feels gross passing on them, not exactly as though lillard and mccollum are lighting the world on fire. maybe they look better with an elite wing.

i dont buy charlotte, would insta trade kemba. milwaukee is weird due to what you're trying to do with point giannis in the future. would still get ball/fultz.
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03-16-2017 , 10:45 AM
Lillard and/or McCollum can hit the bricks so fast for Ball.

I'd tell RWB to cede primary PG duties if OKC had a chance to get Ball.
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03-16-2017 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
suggesting he go #1 if he crushes the tournament when ball and fultz are still breathing would be the definition of overrating him based on a 6 game sample in my opinion.

in any case, this is not the island i want to defend for multiple posts, i will admit my take is garbage and move on.



what team is settled enough at pg to pass on ball/fultz? i dont think theres one.
I understand your point bub but Tatum is just now starting to see his potential as a teenaged freshmen playing college basketball.

So, it makes sense to judge him more off his recent games than his first string of games coming off injury when he was awful.
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