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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Every team should take Lonzo first imo. He's a generational player. After that it becomes a lot more interesting.
If Fultz goes ahead of him it's going to be like an era defining catastrophic mistake for whichever team does that
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
It blows my mind that anyone else is in the discussion. He's so good. Fultz isn't close to him as a passer or a shooter. It's legit a taller Steph Curry with LeBron's court vision. Obv he isn't as good as either at those things but those are his comps imo. He just makes it look so easy. It will be the biggest mistake since Darko>Melo/Wade/Bosh if Fultz (or anyone else) goes #1.
I saw someone earlier say that if Ball goes to LA it's bye bye Russell. Both are good shooters, and Ball has the height/length to cross-match, why can't the play together? Ball/Russell/Ingram/Randle/Zubac would be sweet. If the Knacks get Ball they have title equity next year. He's what STAPS needs.
Strongly disagree with all of this.
Lonzo is great, sure. But saying he is worlds ahead of Fultz is ridiculous and wrong.
Lonzo has only mediocre-decent athleticism and as great a passer and as smart a player as he is, he actually is not an elite ball handler. If you watch him, he actually very rarely puts his head down and drives to the hoop--and when he does, he goes right and often gets stopped (though he is very capable of finding a cutter or spot up shooter in these situations). His size, while a HUGE asset in college will merely serve just as an equalizer on the next level given that many guards that are smaller can jump just as high. And the funky delivery on his shot, while it works for him and he clearly shoots at a high clip, may be a problem at the next level anyway because he will get blocked much easier than he would if he had more standard mechanics.
Dissimilarly, Fultz has basically no weaknesses. It's true that he may not literally have GOAT potential, but he basically becomes Dame like always. I don't think Ball has literal GOAT potential either, unless he vastly improves in his ability to drive and score outside of jumpshooting.
I think Ball is probably #2, but I would take Fultz #1. If you think Ball is #1 I wouldn't have an hours long debate with you (even though I disagree), but if you think Ball isn't even close to Fultz than I would.