Valanciunas is similar size and also horrible.

jonas is barely 22, doubt anyone will be expecting okafor to be a good defender after two seasons

Okafor definitely has the Vucevic/Valanciunas defensive floor. He just doesn't have the foot speed once you bring him out of the paint.

LOL Jonas

yep lolkafor

fat slow cant defend college smalls and wont be able to be fats his way to the rim as effectively, cant shoot FTs

mite not be a top 10 pick at this rate

How's my boy tyus progressing? Haven't watched any Duke for the last month or so but seems like every time I check out a box score he always has the best line on the team including tonight. Think I've watched 3 Duke games vs top 25 competition and he was the best player on the floor in every one, looks that way tonight again

Y'all wanna talk okafor and he ain't even the best prospect on his own team, **** outta here

Tyus is a beast. Guy will be very good in the NBA.

Myles Turner's floor? A better Pero Antic? He can spread the floor on O and adjust shots on D.

Myles Turner's floor is not in the league

He's gonna have serious problems with NBA bigs

turner has had lots of injury issues too, his athleticism def seems sub par but not in that he has any one big weakness, he just has a few different meh athletic traits (mobility/strength/explosiveness)

tyus looks smart but he's such a rexy midget, seems a total lock to get destroyed on d no matter how smart he is

the stanley johnson / justise winslow / kelly oubre comparison was always gonna be interesting imo. right now it's looking like stan>kelly>winslow but still clsoe enough that it could all change

Oubre lock bust imo

Don't think any of them will be that good though.

I just don't see what you're seeing. On offense I see his ceiling as like Ibaka. On defense I'm just unconvinced. He seems like a dumbass to me and WCS is the real defensive phenom there and is probably underrated as a prospect despite his age.

everytime i turn on the end of a Duke game against a ranked opponent they are losing with like 2 minutes left and Tyus Jones somehow manages to just will the team to victory. if it's possible to be clutch, then i'm pretty sure that he is.

last night i had sort of an epiphany about him. i watch every Kentucky and UCLA game that i can and i spend most of that time being pissed off at Andrew/Aaron Harrison and Bryce Alford/Norman Powell for not getting the ball to their teams talented bigs in the post.

think about the huge scoring numbers that Okafor puts up and what that indicates about Tyus' decision making. for a guy that scores a good amount himself, Jones has to be like top 1% in the NCAA in feeding the post. i'm confident that he's going to find a way to be successful in the NBA.

Top 5? He didn't even get 5 stars.

At any rate, that has no bearing on anything. He'll definitely get a shot in the NBA - he's strong, very athletic, a really good defender, and as that blurb said, he's unselfish (you kind of have to be to play for Bennett). He's obviously worked on his jump shot, so even if that declines a little, he'll have that skill.

He needs to work on his in-between game. He's basically either 3-pointer or dunk/lay-up/put-back. For a guy with his athleticism and now a good outside shot, he has surprisingly little touch from mid-range and even short-range. He can get into the lane, but has trouble finishing if he's not right at the rim. He also needs to develop a better handle. He's a good enough ball handler since he's usually only the third option in that regard and can dribble well enough to help break presses, but he could use some work there.

If he can improve the above - handle and short-mid range game - he could be fantastic. It might be a big "if," but he already worked in the offseason on his 3-point game and that improved a lot, so he could very well improve in other aspects if he is aware that he needs work on them.

Tyus Jones is really, really good. I can't imagine him being a plus defender in the NBA, but he's crazy quick, is surprisingly tough for his size, and can shoot the lights out.

I still got Mudiay>Russell btw

Higher ceiling and lower floor but **** it

don't think i've found anyone that agrees with me, but i actually have Kevon Looney as the 2nd best prospect in the draft. if you watch him closely it becomes clear that his rebounding radius is massive, like any loose ball or missed shot within like 5-6 feet of him is going to end up in his hands a large percentage of the time.

and to go with his legit center length he actually has real wing skills. dude takes the jump ball for the opening tip at a school that can actually recruit bigs while being able to handle the ball like a guard and is shooting 40% from three.

to top it all off, he seems really smart as well. since they started keeping track of offensive rebounds, Looney is the only freshman ever with more assists than turnovers to average more than 3 offensive rebounds per game at 3.7 oReb/g and a 1.6 to 1.4 A/TO ratio. the only other player with a positive A/TO ratio to come close is some guy named Anthony Davis who averaged slightly under 3 oReb/g.

last night at the end of the Arizona St. game UCLA was down by 2 and AZ St. got a huge offensive rebound with ~20 seconds left. Looney was the only one the court that recognized the situation and despite having already having 4 fouls and it meaning the end of his night he quickly committed the foul to stop the clock when he realized no one else on his team was going to.

btw UCLA is never going anywhere with Steve Alford as their coach, i don't think there's any way outside of a brain damage causing childhood accident that the son of a non-dumbass coach could ever end up with as low a BBIQ as Bryce has.

Picking up the convo regarding Jahlil and his Defensive ability. Here is a pic from a subscription site that tracks all plays and breaks them down into individual and situational categories, and compares the player to all other players in D1 college bball. it goes much more in depth, but here is the start of Jahlil's defensive page:


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7th percentile in isolation situations is pretty lol.

yeah when i was watching the Duke game last night multiple times it'd be a 1v1 in the post and somehow despite Jahlil's massive wingspan, the NC bigs would just do their regular post moves and shoot over him like he was your average college scrub.

i think he's got that fro to hide the fact that he is like 6'8.5" without shoes.

More TYUS, less jahLOL talk please k thx bye

I really like Tyus Jones and think if he stayed in college he could become one of the best players in the country next year. Unfortunately I don't see him ever being a star in the pros. He's pretty undersized and is really more of a scorer than a pg, and he lacks Russell Westbrook type athleticism to make up for lack of size.

He kind of reminds me of Kemba Walker, with a little better shot and worse athleticism.

Trey Burke ran a train on the NCAA too


Midget PGs really have a tough go at the NBA level

yeah Tyus would be lol as a top 10 pick, but in the #15-25 range i think he's probably worth the risk.

Too bad my boy Jerian Grant is ancient, be so nice if he was a junior dropping 20 points and 10 assists every third game instead of a fifth year senior