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02-10-2015 , 09:09 PM

#101

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WCS and Towns are both so sick. Lol Okafor

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02-11-2015 , 03:35 AM

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Okafor = Al Jefferson

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02-11-2015 , 03:48 AM

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Finally getting to watch more of the guys at the top play. Some solid talent at the top. I still don't know what to make of Mudiay beating on Chinese people but the clips are pretty nice.

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02-11-2015 , 04:16 AM

#104

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I wonder how Branden Dawson will test at the combine. He looks like an elite athlete when you watch him play. He's just so fast and explosive and such a leaper for his size, not to mention his strength. Guy has obvious warts. He's essentially a 6'6/6'7 Power Forward very little skill to his game, but can't help but think at worst he's a more explosive Carl Landry.

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02-11-2015 , 04:28 AM

#105

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Dawson is going to have to defend SFs if he wants to play in the NBA. DeMarre Carroll is someone that comes to mind when I think of Dawson. He was a PF in college who couldnt shoot the three really that transitioned into a legit NBA SF. Obviously thats prob Dawsons ceiling but it seems possible.

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02-11-2015 , 06:56 AM

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dawson seems pretty meh. usually these undersized pfs have 7"+ spans but he's at 6'9", and measured an 8'5" standing reach which is not even close to nba size. for example, tristan thompson is significantly taller, longer and reachier, and a plenty good athlete (blocked a lot more shots) yet fits kind of a useless mould in the nba. those measurements are from 2010 so maybe he's bigger now, but it doesn't even matter

plus he's old. carroll at least took a few 3s his senior yr. not a good look to be shooting a career low 45% on fts snr yr

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02-11-2015 , 06:04 PM

#107

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Okafor = Al Jefferson

Disagree with this a lot. Jefferson is much more reliant on midrange crap. Okafor is great at establishing himself in the paint.

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02-11-2015 , 08:18 PM

#108

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okafor is historically great offensively so jefferson is def a diss. defensively the comp might not be too bad along with any number of big but slow centers (dmc, lopez, vucevic)

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02-11-2015 , 08:21 PM

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Oh great one of those idiots who believes in analytics. I bet you didn't get any girls in high school.

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02-11-2015 , 08:22 PM

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http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015...owns-videobomb

Lol karl clowns

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02-11-2015 , 09:02 PM

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Disagree with this a lot. Jefferson is much more reliant on midrange crap. Okafor is great at establishing himself in the paint.

true but that is something a lot of guys get better at as they age.

I don't think Okafor will ever be a positive defender but hes going to be quite good on offense. The Jefferson comparison was a slight diss, but I don't know, becoming a slightly better ALJeff isn't a terrible result.

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02-11-2015 , 11:36 PM

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1. Deangelo Russell

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02-11-2015 , 11:50 PM

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Deangelo Russell comparisons? Skinny James Harden?

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02-11-2015 , 11:52 PM

#114

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A mix between harden and ginobili

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02-12-2015 , 10:27 AM

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Other than his lack of size/length, I would also be concerned that Dawson did not improve in four years under Izzo. Seems like that would point to low motivation to reach his potential. What is going to click at this point to change that?

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02-16-2015 , 07:06 AM

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he seems more mobile than most guys his size tho, and while he'll prob never be a big rim protector he could still be solid on d. plus his offensive stats are basically the goat

what do people think of okafor's offensive potential in the nba. would people say he is basically a lock to be a really special lowpost scorer (ie better than aljeff/pekovic types)

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02-16-2015 , 07:25 AM

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secret sleeper that hangs around the league: normal powell. have watched very little college bball this year but this kid is going to be pretty decent imo, similar to kj in some ways but not quite the hops/shot blocking and more handles. clear nba quickness/length, shot doesn't look broken, really great finishing ability. probably only enough size to play the 2 which is limiting, but sign me up. haven't watched any interviews or read anything about him off the court so can't speak to that yet

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02-16-2015 , 09:54 AM

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I'd say he'd be better than Pekovic right now were he in the league. He'll be super efficient, the only question is how high of a usage he'll be able to carry while doing it. Offensive potential is truly all-time great. Defensively I think whatever team drafts him will be fine if he's simply not aids, which is easy for someone 6'11 275.

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02-16-2015 , 11:43 AM

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he is also long enough to be not aids and people also forget this has also a lot to do with duke's defensive schemes. i dont think any of the duke centers will ever have high block percentage so its just a silly stat to use. i dont think he is great defensively but he is big and long enough to be not awful at it and he doesn't seem like an idiot so should be alright.

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02-16-2015 , 02:17 PM

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hating on okafor is so silly I barely even know how to respond.

Okafor would be a top-10 (probably top-5) low post offensive player in the NBA today. Right now. He's already ahead of 90% of NBA bigs. Name your elite low post scorers who can efficiently iso and demand double teams. There's not that many.

His defense is fine. 6'11, probably gonna grow into 7'0. Has a 7'5 wingspan and is reasonably athletic, and he's smart and isn't lazy. It's really, REALLY hard to be a negative defender if you are his size and are smart and try hard. He'll be a fine NBA defender, just not elite.

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02-17-2015 , 09:46 PM

#121

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Justin Anderson seems underrated, but I've not seen him play.

Was a top-5 national recruit
UVA, 21yo JR measured 6'6" in shoes 222 6'11" wingspan in 2011.
Shooting 46-95 (48.4%) from 3pt this season.

DE says "tremendous physical tools... Anderson is a terrific athlete with great overall strength and explosiveness," they also say he's unselfish and a plus defender.

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02-17-2015 , 10:18 PM

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Justin Anderson seems underrated, but I've not seen him play.

Was a top-5 national recruit
UVA, 21yo JR measured 6'6" in shoes 222 6'11" wingspan in 2011.
Shooting 46-95 (48.4%) from 3pt this season.

DE says "tremendous physical tools... Anderson is a terrific athlete with great overall strength and explosiveness," they also say he's unselfish and a plus defender.

no, but hes a good athlete, I dont think he will be able to create much and his shooting will come down to earth but seems like a likely nba role player.

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02-17-2015 , 10:44 PM

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Anderson's main comp is Justise Winslow. They're both versatile wings, athletic good defenders, multi-skilled on offense. Anderson is producing at a slightly higher efficiency than Winslow this season, but age is against him, being 28 months older. They probably have a similar median outcome, but Winslow's ceiling is higher.

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02-18-2015 , 07:22 AM

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i tend to agree offensively, seems like a lock to be a top 3 low post guy within like 2 yrs imo, dmc is probably the only guy with a similar level of bulk + skill

there's also some defatting potential for him, he's 275 or whatever but he could probably lose 20lbs of fat pretty easily which would improve his defensivep otential

and yet, TOWNS still a lock goat player and clear born alpha so you gotta go with him. 30per in conference play, 80% fts. at least jahlil is up to 57% so he's probably not as lol of a ft shooter as he looked early

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02-18-2015 , 08:23 AM

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Where is that 30 PER in conference play stat? I find it hard to believe that 9 ppg translates into 30 PER, even in the lolSEC. that kinda makes me suspect that everyone on kentucky has their advanced stats inflated by virtue of being on a GOAT team.

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