NBA draft guys and Eurostashes will all be rookies next year so it's similar. But thanks for showing me that there are other places to post in 2P2 I didn't know.

There's an ignore feature here fwiw

I'm real curious who the 76ers will draft.

Imo, take a big if he's BPA and then run Noel/Embiid/BPA 32 mins each.

Yeah Sixers shouldn't and won't even spend one second thinking about positional needs.

Nerlens/Embiid/Okafor might make this ridiculous plan actually work.

then trade 2 of them for Brow and become good instantly with MCW/Tony GOATen/x/Brow/whichever one they keep.

Why would the Pelicans get rid of Brow?

because he realizes he's never going to win with a team put together by dell demps and coached by monty williams and tells NO he's not re-signing?

Gotcha

There's still years before that could become an issue. Lol at ever trading Brow.

the reason brow won't leave is because coming off that rookie contract, the home team can sign him for WAY more than if he left, right?

Seems like all the elite players leave after their second contract, not after their first.

I disagree. Briante Weber, Yogi Ferrell, Marcus Paige, all better

Speaking of Briante Weber, he reminds me of Rajon Rondo.

way too early for anyone anywhere to have a definite opinion on Tyus Jones yet. He's played one game ever against meaningful competition (and he's not okafor-esque where it doesn't matter because you can just tell). Let's wait and see how good Tyus can be.

yeah, but even more than the money i think its that they are still too young and naive to realize how much the organization they play for affects their career and ability to win championships.

when you're a 24yo durant or davis and you're that good you just assume you can carry any team to success and it doesn't matter who the owner, gm, or coach is or what teammates they surround you with.

wtf is up with kelly oubre, he was supposed to be one of the top top prospects and is glued to the bench

most other new prospects looking good:
karl towns - looks like the total package. size+athleticism+shooting+passing
okafor - dominant as expected, and not the black hole some feared he might be. aving 1.7asts so far
turner - seems to have a sweet skillset of shooting while solid at everything else including good size+athleticism
winslow - looks super safe. basically good at everything except possibly shooting given that he's 24/40 on fts
stan johnson - perferming basically exactly as expected. physical beast wing with unpolished but potentially good offensive game
cliff alexander - looks ok but lacks intrigue due semi meh size/skillset combo at this pt. yet to record an assist or steal in 7 games so far


some pretty interesting articles at dx:
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...nd-Steals-4466
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...ss-Part-I-4552
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...-Part-II-4781/

haven't really read it yet but looks worthwhile, not much out there on this stuff

wat the reason the rookie supermaxes stay is because they are not UFA unless they play out their last year at 8m or whatever instead of the max that they'd be eligible for which for BROW will be just the derrick-rose-ultramax

PISTONS BABY

BRING ON MUDIAY

Jesus, there's nothing naive about not risking your whole career for $7 million and free agency when you can lock up $100 million guaranteed.

I wasn't going off anything he's done in college, tonight is the first duke game I've seen unsurprisingly TYUS crushed and was the best player on the floor vs #2 team. I've seen many of his high school games where he's got by far the highest bball IQ/poise I've ever seen from a high schooler. Also saw him play in the pro am league here in mn, which is mostly current college/recent college grads and overseas pros/like d league players and Tyus was the best player on the floor every game as a 17 year old heading into his senior season. Great finishing ability around the rim in traffic, solid midrange game, and great 3 point range and accuracy. Solid handle, room for improvement and just such elite decision making. I think he'd be one of the top 5 smartest pgs in the league right now. from the game tonight tho, it seems his D is severely lacking behind his offensive game. His pretty small, and weak looking compared to Wisconsin at least. Idk if all college teams will dwarf him like that. Wisconsin guards blew by him whenever they wanted and he didn't seem fully engaged on that end. He actually did better when switched on kaminsky than vs guards somehow

Also, though I've never seen him play with team USA, he's the starting pg for his age groups national team, which is pretty good evidence itself, he's the best pg of his class at least

beef - something is sample-sizing in winslow's shooting. He's at 39% from 3pt and only 60% from the FT line, which seems a little odd - normally guys shooting that well from three are at least 75% from the FT line. It's still super early, but I'd expect him to either see the FT % climb or the 3pt% regress. Would be strange for that pattern to continue all year.

Given that his stroke looks fairly normal (for both shots) and he's not a gangly klutz who can't handle the ball, I'm hoping that his FT stroke will be improving. If he's actually that good a 3pt shooter in addition to his athleticism, defense, and driving ability... he's just a sick prospect. If he proves to be a ~40% shooter and the rest continues to develop, he probably goes top 5. Seems kind of like an Aaron-Gordonesque guy except with good shooting.

I'm a pretty big duke homer, but I'm still not sold on Tyus Jones as a top prospect in this draft.

The 'age group' argument is ignoring that Muiday is the #2 or #3 guy in the entire class and is a point guard, just not for the USA. I haven't seen any GUANGDONG SOUTHERN TIGERS games, but the NBA scouts are apparently very positive on his performances. Muiday is pretty clearly >> Jones at this point.

Other than Muiday, I think Jones is likely in a muddled group of other SG/PG types, without much clear separation yet. He's the purest PG prospect, which is a positive for him imo. But he's also weak on defense, and as of right now would get eaten alive by NBA PGs. He doesn't have much going for him physically - he's shortish, not all that long and not a great athlete in terms of jumping or explosiveness. That means questions about how well he'll translate when driving, absorbing contact, and finishing in the NBA.

Obviously there's a lot of good stuff as well. Great passer, understands the game very well. Knows how to direct an offense and how to get his teammates involved. He's very likely a very good shooter. Fantastic A/TO ratio. He's a very good player. I'm just not sold on him as the best PG or an elite prospect because of the size and defense questions. I can actually see him coming back next year to Duke, although who knows at this point.

also, if dean were still on the internet I'm sure he would want us to lol at doug mcdermott's early returns. So I'll do it on his behalf. Not only terrible on D but terrible on offense at the moment as well. HATE HATE HATE.

We should call him Dougie "Not So" Fresh

Isnt/wasn't he hurt?

I rememeber him not looking too bad

IIRC NCAA FT% correlates much better to NBA 3P% than NCAA 3P%

is comparing winslow to harden accurate? or a stretch?