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02-14-2014 , 11:43 PM
Bennett will get there
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02-15-2014 , 12:03 AM
Spoiler:
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02-15-2014 , 12:35 AM
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Bennett will get there
Are we talking about the line to KFC again?
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02-15-2014 , 01:03 AM
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lol @ questioning Canadians' WIM
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at least you guys have Ennis and Stauskas to atone for Wiggins and Bennett
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02-15-2014 , 01:29 AM
Dean,

Something else that I think distorts Marvin William's true value in your table is the ORTG. Yeah his was 119, but his team was loaded and scored 88 points/game. I can't find UNC's team ORTG that year, but I doubt it was much lower than that.
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02-15-2014 , 02:29 AM
Kevin Love's WS48 at UCLA was .391
Brow was .314
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02-15-2014 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Horton
Dean,

Something else that I think distorts Marvin William's true value in your table is the ORTG. Yeah his was 119, but his team was loaded and scored 88 points/game. I can't find UNC's team ORTG that year, but I doubt it was much lower than that.
Something that distorts Andrew Wiggins stats is that he's horrible in the half-court.

Nobody's stats perfectly state their value. But I would say of everybody's stats that I posted in the table that Wiggins is likely the most fraudulent.
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02-15-2014 , 11:07 AM
counter argument to the Wiggins hate: link
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02-15-2014 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
counter argument to the Wiggins hate: link
yeah i thought about that, don't think it parallels

the angles that were underrated wrt drum

1) uconn led the nation in opponent rim FG%
2) he took a ton of shots away from the rim (107 of his 292 total FGA) with a 25% eFG. in the pros he has embraced his role as a finisher and 476 of his 488 FGA's this year have been at the rim.

if drum just limited his non-rim attempts like he does in the pros he would have had a ~ 69% FG instead of 54% and i bet 2p2 (including myself- i slept on drum big time) would have been wayyy higher on him

wiggins doesn't make that level of defensive impact, and he doesn't have any fat that he can trim from his offensive game to instantly make him better.
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02-15-2014 , 02:54 PM
so now that i have a good base of material i'm going to start spending more time on twitter to see if i can gain some popularity. @deanondraft
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02-15-2014 , 06:18 PM
Wiggins needs to step up his statpadding vs. this garbage team with Embiid out.
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02-15-2014 , 08:31 PM
There's room on the Sindarius Thornwell bandwagon for you former Wiggins snake oil salesmen but you're probably not smart enough to jump on
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02-15-2014 , 08:36 PM
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There's room on the Sindarius Thornwell bandwagon for you former Wiggins snake oil salesmen but you're probably not smart enough to jump on
Great name for the villain in a cheesy romance novel or maybe a House Slitherin Harry Potter character.
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02-15-2014 , 08:39 PM
Adam Silver is going to reeval the lottery process, good news imo.
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02-15-2014 , 11:05 PM
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Adam Silver is going to reeval the lottery process, good news imo.
You mean the new, unrigged process?
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02-15-2014 , 11:34 PM
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Adam Silver is going to reeval the lottery process, good news imo.
is it changing?
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02-16-2014 , 01:33 AM
no
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02-16-2014 , 03:01 PM
Here's a kinda homery question, but does Marcus Paige warrant any discussion? Haven't seen his name thrown around but he's been really solid this season, and definitely surpassed expectations. Some #s: ~.6 TS, 20 PER, 122 Ortg, .39% 3 pt, 90% FT, 2:1 A/TO.

Obviously he's hampered by lack of athleticism and meh physical tools. Defense could be a real issue, since he's a bit undersized with average lateral quicks at best. But he compensates fairly well with high iq, effort, and sneakiness, and is surprisingly adept at rim finishing via Tony Parkeresque circus shots. Idk, just curious if he sniffs the second round.
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02-16-2014 , 03:06 PM
He sniffs the 2nd round. But it's hard to get too excited when neither his stats nor his tools stand out.
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02-16-2014 , 07:46 PM
if lottery process changes it'd be like 5+years after they find a suitable change. probably more like 10 years or something.


mcdermott goat?
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02-16-2014 , 08:11 PM
mcdermott is arguably the GOAT college player destined to be NBA water trash
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02-16-2014 , 08:12 PM
i'm gonna watch this game to give him a fair trial and see if anything piques my interest but i just don't get the infatuation with this guy. he reeks of meh meh meh super mehhhhhh to me.
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02-16-2014 , 08:49 PM
39 on 13/17 seems not meh to me. got to translate somehow and someway being this dominant
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02-16-2014 , 08:52 PM
And that's with the defense totally keying on him, coming from an array of offense. Coming off screens, off the dribble, in the post deep, in the post stepbacks. Get off the hate train, fast, Dean.
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02-16-2014 , 08:53 PM
lol, no he does not need to translate. what the **** is so special about him that wasn't there with jimmer?

i'm actually probably not gonna watch the game. i just don't care. lol Ougie forever. maybe i'll take the time to check my work at some point before the draft but there are more pressing matters atm.
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