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View Poll Results: Who will end up as the GOAT
Roger Federer 296 68.84%
Rafa Nadal 84 19.53%
Novak Djokovic 40 9.30%
Andy Murray 3 0.70%
Pete Sampras 2 0.47%
Roy Emerson 0 0%
Bjorn Borg 1 0.23%
Roder Laver 1 0.23%
John McEnroe 1 0.23%
Bill Tilden 2 0.47%
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Old 09-15-2010, 01:02 PM   #101
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I don't think either of them will ever go down as the GOAT, there will always be somebody else who wins more slams than Fed (or Nadal), and people in the future might look on Fed like we do on Laver. Imo atm it's between Fed and Laver for the GOAT, but Rafa will challenge that and then somebody else will come along. There will always be a debate.
Yes, well, the greatest of all time so far has a ****tier acronym. (And is uncomfortably close to GOATSE).
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Old 09-15-2010, 01:23 PM   #102
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Re: Rafa Nadal v Roger Federer - GOAT Discussion

How is this even a discussion?
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Old 09-15-2010, 01:26 PM   #103
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No idea!

There's always going to be someone better.
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Old 09-15-2010, 01:42 PM   #104
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Re: Rafa Nadal v Roger Federer - GOAT Discussion

brad gilbert on rome right now saying that nadal is right on feds tail, considering h2h in majors, and has the chance to really close the gap in the next few years
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:37 PM   #105
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Re: Rafa Nadal v Roger Federer - GOAT Discussion

Poll implies or at least should read for the sake of discussion '10 years from now' i.e. when Nadal/Fed's careers are over.
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:42 PM   #106
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Re: Rafa Nadal v Roger Federer - GOAT Discussion

Donald Young has yet to hit his peak, but when he does, watch out Rafa.
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:04 PM   #107
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Donald Young has yet to hit his peak, but when he does, watch out Rafa.
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Old 09-15-2010, 05:22 PM   #108
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Roger wins
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:05 PM   #109
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Federer is the greatest Swiss player of all time
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:23 AM   #110
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I'd go so far as to say that if Nadal ends up ahead of Fed in grand slams it will be by exactly one. Since the other possibilities realistically are 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 fewer or even, it's about the same price as flopping a set to a pocket pair between deuces and nines.
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:24 AM   #111
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I voted for Rafa on the basis that the Swiss are too boring to be considered the GOAT at anything apart from making small but unthreatening knives.
WAT?

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Old 09-16-2010, 03:05 AM   #112
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Re: Rafa Nadal v Roger Federer - GOAT Discussion

- an eleven-time consecutive world-champion
- has been the world's top ranked player since 1999
- unbeaten in singles matches since January 2003
- may be the most dominant player in any professional sport

Major Titles

Australian Open: singles 2002-04, 2006–09, doubles 2003-04, 2006–09
French Open: singles 2007–10, doubles 2007-09
Wimbledon: doubles 2009, 2010
US Open: singles 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005–07, 2009, doubles 1998–2000, 2003, 2005–07, 2009, 2010
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:45 AM   #113
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Re: Rafa Nadal v Roger Federer - GOAT Discussion

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I don't think either of them will ever go down as the GOAT, there will always be somebody else who wins more slams than Fed (or Nadal), and people in the future might look on Fed like we do on Laver. Imo atm it's between Fed and Laver for the GOAT, but Rafa will challenge that and then somebody else will come along. There will always be a debate.
McEnroe ruined Laver in my mind after I found out that 3 out of the 4 slams back then were on GRASS. Imo Federer and Rafa have already surpassed the accomplishments of Laver.

If Rafa stays healthy I don't see why he can't win 20 slams. I really hope that Rafa takes it easy for the rest of the year so he can very healthy for 2011.
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:04 AM   #114
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There's not many tournaments left anyway. Shanghai Masters in October and then ATP Finals in November and then everyone rests up for 2011.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:28 AM   #115
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I'd go so far as to say that if Nadal ends up ahead of Fed in grand slams it will be by exactly one. Since the other possibilities realistically are 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 fewer or even, it's about the same price as flopping a set to a pocket pair between deuces and nines.
C'mon Cinch. You don't know the probability of any of those things.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:43 AM   #116
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Re: Rafa Nadal v Roger Federer - GOAT Discussion

2011 Grand Slam Predictions

Aussie Open - Federer
French - Nadal
Wimbledon - Nadal
US Open - Murray (I think he will win either the Aussie/US next year)
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:49 AM   #117
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Level?

I'll assume it isn't and say that the result of that match, were it to happen wouldn't have an impact on this debate (excluding the possibility that it's the final)
ofc it wouldnt impact this debate. bc nadal will pwn like usual. and the tennis purists will make up excuses for federer and bastardize the meaning of things like "technique" and "movement."
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:53 AM   #118
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bc nadal will pwn like usual
Fed is beating him on grass 2-1

EDIT: imo the reason it won't impact this debate is because one match shouldn't affect who is the GOAT

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Old 09-16-2010, 11:12 AM   #119
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- an eleven-time consecutive world-champion
- has been the world's top ranked player since 1999
- unbeaten in singles matches since January 2003
- may be the most dominant player in any professional sport

Major Titles

Australian Open: singles 2002-04, 2006–09, doubles 2003-04, 2006–09
French Open: singles 2007–10, doubles 2007-09
Wimbledon: doubles 2009, 2010
US Open: singles 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005–07, 2009, doubles 1998–2000, 2003, 2005–07, 2009, 2010
The hell is this? Are you talking about the Esther Vergeer?
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:14 AM   #120
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The hell is this? Are you talking about the Esther Vergeer?
You had to look that up right?
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:16 AM   #121
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- an eleven-time consecutive world-champion
- has been the world's top ranked player since 1999
- unbeaten in singles matches since January 2003
- may be the most dominant player in any professional sport

Major Titles

Australian Open: singles 2002-04, 2006–09, doubles 2003-04, 2006–09
French Open: singles 2007–10, doubles 2007-09
Wimbledon: doubles 2009, 2010
US Open: singles 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005–07, 2009, doubles 1998–2000, 2003, 2005–07, 2009, 2010
who?
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:17 AM   #122
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Re: Rafa Nadal v Roger Federer - GOAT Discussion

Has to be wheelchair tennis
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:19 AM   #123
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You had to look that up right?
I was just thinking wtf, who can this be, maybe it's Serena, cuz' Serena has quite a few doubles titles. Then of course the unbeaten thing gave it away.
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:21 AM   #124
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Has to be wheelchair tennis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Vergeer
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Old 09-16-2010, 12:02 PM   #125
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2011 Grand Slam Predictions

Aussie Open - Federer
French - Nadal
Wimbledon - Nadal
US Open - Murray (I think he will win either the Aussie/US next year)
I'm the same but with Fed winning Wimbledon.
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