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08-02-2010 , 10:53 PM
Also, I absolutely don't understand this talk about Dylan as if he should be a mid-late first rounder.
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08-02-2010 , 10:53 PM
im prolly a bit younger than you all in my music taste, so i guess my only problem with Dylan being in my top 5 is that i can't ****ing understand a word he says in his songs

Also, woulda picked MJ #1, and Lennon #2

In regards to whoever said there are legit 50 possible 1st rounds talents, i dunno about that. i'd say theres about 20. in music theres just the way up their tiers that the 2nd tier just will not ever get to imo
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08-02-2010 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pudge714
Lennon was a guy in my top 3 and probably the guy I would have taken #1.
Wat. He wasn't even the primary influence in The Beatles imo. But taking him is like peanut butter without jelly.

edit: Oh there goes Paul. The Beatles best albums are driven by Paul... Sgt Pepper & Abbey Road.
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08-02-2010 , 10:53 PM
If I didn't pick Bruce it would have been Dylan or Paul.
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08-02-2010 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
Also, I absolutely don't understand this talk about Dylan as if he should be a mid-late first rounder.
Yeah, this is shocking to me. Like wtf?
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08-02-2010 , 10:54 PM
McCartney > Lennon imo
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08-02-2010 , 10:55 PM
Undrafted Beatle > both
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08-02-2010 , 10:56 PM
McCartney was my number 1
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08-02-2010 , 10:56 PM
Advanced Genius Theory is an okay book, but it does shed a lot of interesting light on Dylan. There premise in general is that once someone proves themselves to be a genius who is frequently ahead of their time criticisms of their current work could be invalid because you don't know if they are just ahead of their time again. This argument is pretty circular, but I think it does shed some light on criticisms of a lot of artists and musicians who are frequently experimenting with different things that often piss of their fans because they aren't similar enough to what they loved in the past.

McCartney was a top 3 guy on my board and is obviously very good value at 5.
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08-02-2010 , 10:56 PM
noze, nyc, and needle all online, nice.
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08-02-2010 , 10:57 PM
It's really hard for me to separate Lennon and Paul though, it's why picking a Beatle wasn't a no brainer for me.
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08-02-2010 , 10:57 PM
flyingrat on too
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08-02-2010 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
I saw Dylan live last year and it was... yikes. He changed the key and tempo to all of his songs and you couldn't make out a single word either. I'm not quite sure what that was all about. Still confused.
He's definitely lost a step as a performer in his old age. I still think he's the GOAT songwriter and would pick him over anyone else.

Dylan-Lennon-McCartney were my top 3.
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08-02-2010 , 10:58 PM
I wouldn't have drafted either Lennon or McCartney before 6th or so because they're just so so so much better together. Eh maybe I'm wrong.
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08-02-2010 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingRat
Undrafted Beatle > both
You'll have the opportunity to take him in a few picks then.
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08-02-2010 , 10:59 PM
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Undrafted Beatle > both
uh what?
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08-02-2010 , 10:59 PM
I absolutely would have taken Paul over Lennon as well.
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08-02-2010 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise 60
It's really hard for me to separate Lennon and Paul though, it's why picking a Beatle wasn't a no brainer for me.
Generally, whichever one is singing is primarily responsible for that song. They get co-writer credit on most of the Beatles' stuff, but it generally should be fairly obvious who actually wrote the song.
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08-02-2010 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MEbenhoe
noze, nyc, and needle all online, nice.
I PM'd Noze - I honestly don't have much time left tonight. Hopefully he'll get to me with his pick so I can start my writeup.
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08-02-2010 , 11:01 PM
Flyingrat is obviously referring to Pete Best
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08-02-2010 , 11:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR3i3H2nR-A

Spoiler:

Elvis

He's the King.

I can't say it better than wikipedia at all:

Presley is regarded as one of the most important figures of 20th-century popular culture. He had a versatile voice and unusually wide success encompassing many genres, including country, pop ballads, gospel, and blues. He is the best-selling solo artist in the history of popular music.[1][2][3][4] Nominated for 14 competitive Grammys, he won three, and received the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award at age 36. He has been inducted into four music halls of fame.

Presley's rise to national attention in 1956 transformed the field of popular music and had a huge effect on the broader scope of popular culture.[4] As the catalyst for the cultural revolution that was rock and roll, he was central not only to defining it as a musical genre but in making it a touchstone of youth culture and rebellious attitude.[327] With its racially mixed origins—repeatedly affirmed by Presley—rock and roll's occupation of a central position in mainstream American culture facilitated a new acceptance and appreciation of black culture.[328] In this regard, Little Richard said of Presley, "He was an integrator. Elvis was a blessing. They wouldn't let black music through. He opened the door for black music."[329] Al Green agreed: "He broke the ice for all of us."[330] Presley also heralded the vastly expanded reach of celebrity in the era of mass communication: at the age of 21, within a year of his first appearance on American network television, he was one of the most famous people in the world.[331]

Presley's name, image, and voice are instantly recognizable around the globe.[332] He has inspired a legion of impersonators.[333] In polls and surveys, he is recognized as one of the most important popular music artists and influential Americans.e "Elvis Presley is the greatest cultural force in the twentieth century", said composer and conductor Leonard Bernstein. "He introduced the beat to everything and he changed everything—music, language, clothes. It's a whole new social revolution—the sixties came from it."[334] Bob Dylan described the sensation of first hearing Presley as "like busting out of jail".[330]

A New York Times editorial on the 25th anniversary of Presley's death observed, "All the talentless impersonators and appalling black velvet paintings on display can make him seem little more than a perverse and distant memory. But before Elvis was camp, he was its opposite: a genuine cultural force. ... Elvis's breakthroughs are underappreciated because in this rock-and-roll age, his hard-rocking music and sultry style have triumphed so completely."[335] Not only Presley's achievements, but his failings as well, are seen by some cultural observers as adding to the power of his legacy, as in this description by Greil Marcus:

Elvis Presley is a supreme figure in American life, one whose presence, no matter how banal or predictable, brooks no real comparisons. ... The cultural range of his music has expanded to the point where it includes not only the hits of the day, but also patriotic recitals, pure country gospel, and really dirty blues. ... Elvis has emerged as a great artist, a great rocker, a great purveyor of schlock, a great heart throb, a great bore, a great symbol of potency, a great ham, a great nice person, and, yes, a great American.[336]


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08-02-2010 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NozeCandy
I absolutely would have taken Paul over Lennon as well.
due to personal preferences, I would've taken Lennon #1. But Paul was certainly successful enough to go #1.
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08-02-2010 , 11:06 PM
Lol post-Beatles John is far better and more impactful than post-Beatles Paul. Correct, together they would end this draft, but that doesn't make John a less than #1 pick. Paul wasn't in my top 5, though.
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08-02-2010 , 11:06 PM
I guess I have to re-read the OP, because I have no idea how Elvis isn't the clear #1. And I don't even like his music at all.
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08-02-2010 , 11:07 PM
Actually disregard my previous comment now I'm thinking Paul is def top 3. I don't think Lennon is on his own though. Hard to explain I just think Paul was the more creative one with not much evidence to back up my theory, heh.
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