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07-23-2010 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Francis M.H.
i have read that once wilt got his 5th foul he would completely stop playing defence. he was OBSESSED with stats, more so then winning games. bill russell said that when they would play each other that bill would let wilt run up his stats in the first three quarters, but keep the game close, because he knew that when wilt got the stats he wanted, he would stop playing as hard. russell would work him in the 4th quarters.

I dont see russell's 11 championships as the best player on his team being beaten

basically russell is a way better then wilt
QFT. Wilt may have had the stats since he was obsessed with them, but Bill was the better team player, even though Wilt had seasons where he averaged a ridiculous amount of assists for a center. He was just tough to play with as a person. I read a good bit about the rivalry between Wilt and Bill in Bill Simmons' book about basketball. Can't remember the name right off, but so far, it's a very great book for anyone who loves the game.

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Originally Posted by capone0
he took a ******ed amount of shots. senior year 37.6 a game. i guess taking that many shots in a game for a season is an amazing stat in itself.
Yes, he did average a ton of shots per game but still doesn't take away from a ridiculous average. Very creative player. But maybe I'm just being a homer. :P
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07-23-2010 , 09:28 PM
Antonio Alfonseca had 6 fingers on each hand and 6 toes on each foot. I can't say for certain, but 24 phalanges on one athlete has to be a record.
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07-23-2010 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JayA
Pete Maravich averaged 44 ppg over his entire NCAA career at LSU before the introduction of the 3 point line. Before or after, that's damn impressive.
the most amazing thing about this is that he may have actually been a better passer than scorer. for those who haven't watched this gem of a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVnJeKX5OeY
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07-23-2010 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Stackajawea
the most amazing thing about this is that he may have actually been a better passer than scorer. for those who haven't watched this gem of a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVnJeKX5OeY
Amazing video, I had never seen it until now. He's definitely one of the top passing PGs of all time imo.
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07-25-2010 , 06:29 PM
Kobe 81 points in a game = #1 stat
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07-25-2010 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JayA
QFT. Wilt may have had the stats since he was obsessed with them, but Bill was the better team player, even though Wilt had seasons where he averaged a ridiculous amount of assists for a center. He was just tough to play with as a person. I read a good bit about the rivalry between Wilt and Bill in Bill Simmons' book about basketball. Can't remember the name right off, but so far, it's a very great book for anyone who loves the game.
Meh. It's difficult for anyone to judge the better player because their teams were so different.
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07-25-2010 , 07:22 PM
AL consecutive wins in all star game was pretty outrageous.
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07-25-2010 , 07:26 PM
07-25-2010 , 07:30 PM
also the pitcher who threw a no-hitter while on LSD
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07-25-2010 , 08:49 PM
Red Barrett threw a 58-pitch 9 inning complete game in 1945. That will never happen again. Greg Maddux threw a 78 pitch one in the 90s though, still amazing even though the umpires called every pitch he threw a strike even if it was 4 inches outside.
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07-25-2010 , 08:53 PM
holy cow
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07-25-2010 , 09:20 PM
Kaberle is second among all leaf draft picks in points as a leaf with 485 drafted in 1996. The only player drafted by the leafs to get 500 points as a leaf is Darryl Sittler in 1970. Tomas Kaberle was drafted in the 8th round.

The last player the leafs drafted who has over 500 career points in total is Yanic Perreault in 1991 with 516.

Yes I am a leaf fan, sigh, no wonder Burke traded them away.

Last edited by TMLMS13; 07-25-2010 at 09:46 PM.
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07-25-2010 , 10:01 PM
Here's an 18 year consecutive period covering the prime of a golfer at the British Open. He finished 3rd, 2nd, T12, 1st, 2nd, T2, T6, 1st, T5, 2nd, 4th, 3rd, T3, T2, 2nd, 1st, T2, and 4th. It's ridiculous consistency when you factor in how much weather can really influence the results at the Open. There are often years where half the field is essentially eliminated on Thursday/Friday just because of their random tee times happening during periods where the weather is much more difficult than the early or later start times.

For comparison Tom Watson's best 18 year period goes from age 25-42. He went 1st, CUT, 1st, T14, T26, 1st, T23, 1st, 1st, T2, T47, T35, 7, T28, 4th, CUT, T26, Cut. His five wins are great but given the rest of his results he obviously ran way above EV given that he had only eight top tens and won five of those.
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07-25-2010 , 10:21 PM
Yeah, Jack was pretty solid. While the (British) Open field then wasn't as deep as it is today, it's still pretty impressive to play every Open in the 70s and never finish worse than 5th.
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07-26-2010 , 09:22 AM
Capriati getting to two grand slam semis when she was 14 is pretty insane.
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07-26-2010 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevmath
amazing.
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Originally Posted by clout
also the pitcher who threw a no-hitter while on LSD
dock ellis is a true sports gem.

May 1, 1974 game against Cincinnati
Ellis attempted to hit every batter in the Cincinnati Reds lineup on May 1, 1974, in an effort to prove a point to teammates. Ellis hit Pete Rose, Joe Morgan, and Dan Driessen in the top of the first. The clean-up batter Tony Perez avoided Ellis's attempts, instead drawing a walk, and after two pitches aimed at the head of Johnny Bench, Ellis was removed from the game by manager Danny Murtaugh. Ellis's box score for the game reads: 0 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K.[7]

he has an autobiography, i forget the name but its really interesting for about 200 pages or so, but the last bit of it gets real slow.
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07-26-2010 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stringbetter
Red Barrett threw a 58-pitch 9 inning complete game in 1945. That will never happen again. Greg Maddux threw a 78 pitch one in the 90s though, still amazing even though the umpires called every pitch he threw a strike even if it was 4 inches outside.
I went to a Twins game a few years ago where Carlos Silva (lol) threw a complete game in like 68 pitches or something. Might be more impressive when you adjust for era. (EDIT: It was actually 74 pitches according to Wiki)

A couple that people kind of take for granted:

The Cubs going such a ridiculously long time without a World Series boggles my mind still.

Brett Favre's consecutive games streak is also insane to me. It's just crazy that any NFL player could play so many in a row, much less a QB who takes quite a bit of punishment each game it seems like. Dude just loves football imo.
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07-26-2010 , 05:19 PM
Barry Bonds 120 intentional walks in a season. Next highest season total (only a stat since 55) by a non Barry Bonds is 45. In the 3 year span 2002-2004 he drew 249 IBB, which would be behind only Hank Aaron (293 in 22 seasons) and Willie McCovey (260 in 22 seasons) on the CAREER list. At least once a team intentionally walked him with the bases loaded.
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07-26-2010 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
I do remember that when enough years had gone by that his incredible record was commontalk but it was also clear that Lineker was in the twilight of his career, there was sense of "50 games for Lineker to avoid a yellow card" etc. And you should know that he's very very popular (his nickname is 'Mr Nice Guy'), just a real class act and national hero/treasure, so you definitely wouldn't have wanted to be the ref that gave him a yellow card in one of his final couple of seasons. I imagine he would have gotten away with a borderline offence during this period, *if he committed one* which he not have. The record is pretty legit, and incredile.

There is a similar player, Alan Smith who although not as accomplished a player as Lineker, was a fine footballer in his own right (13 appearances for England), who went the first 12 years of his 14 year career without a yellow card. He then received the only card of his career. I remember at the time the ref took a lot of flak for breaking the streak (it was a petty yellow card, borderline at best, and it was considered that he should have taken Smith's record in to consideration before permanently blemishing it).

The best comparison I can think of is Michael Owen. 14 (injury blighted) yr career so far, and plays a similar 'striker who would never need to make a risky tackle and is level headed and won't get in to fights' mould. He is at 15 yellows and 1 red. To NEVER get a yellow card as an outfielder over 546 games is really just mindblowing.
The Alan Smith one is the one I find amazing. He backed into defenders quite a lot id have expected him to pick up a few cards for that over the years.
Lineker was always looking to run into space he wasn't competing for the ball against defenders and if truth be told wasn't that brave and would duck out of challenges.
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07-26-2010 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fleebrog
Zero yellow cards? That is truly amazing...

You would think at the very least a biased (consciously or not) referee somewhere would give one.
Yellows used to be much rarer than they are today as well.
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07-26-2010 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stringbetter
Barry Bonds 120 intentional walks in a season. Next highest season total (only a stat since 55) by a non Barry Bonds is 45. In the 3 year span 2002-2004 he drew 249 IBB, which would be behind only Hank Aaron (293 in 22 seasons) and Willie McCovey (260 in 22 seasons) on the CAREER list. At least once a team intentionally walked him with the bases loaded.
all you have to do is say Barry Bonds' stats from 2001-2004. they are mind boggling.
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07-26-2010 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by stringbetter
At least once a team intentionally walked him with the bases loaded.
Was that team was winning by 4 runs?
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07-27-2010 , 12:40 AM
iirc it was up 2 with 2outs bottom 9th
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07-27-2010 , 01:01 AM
Rocky Balboa
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Height 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m)
Nationality American
Birth place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Stance Southpaw
Boxing record
Wins 57
Wins by KO 54 (95%)
Losses 24
Draws 1
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07-27-2010 , 01:10 AM
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The one I always liked was Mike Scott at the end of the '86 regular season. He clinched the pennant with a no-hitter and had one start left. He was wielding nearly unhittable stuff with a nearly unhittable pitch. He was odds-on to pitch a 3-hitter at that point. Something like a 15/1 K/W ratio and 15 hits over 5 starts. But even more than that was watching him utterly mismatch the hitters like they were junior high or something. I was on the edge of my seat. This was a spot where it could happen and not be a fluke. He pitched a 2-hitter in the last start and then a 3-hitter and 5-hitter in playoffs. Over his last 4 starts he gave up 10 hits, "averaging" a 2 1/2 hitter. It was like Stieb, but more dominant.

Yeah, Scott was crazy at his peak. I remember the game where he clinched the pennant. I heard the simulcast on a radio station in Cincinnati for the last couple of innings. They pick up the broadcast because the Reds were the last team eliminated when the Astros clinched that year.

The best stuff that a Strasburg type could put out there would have to give him a chance.

Well, Matt Garza is the next up to get a crack at this back-to-back thing I guess!
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