Originally Posted by gusmahler
His point is simple--how valuable can you be if your team is in last? Replace Arod with the worst SS in baseball and guess what? The team is still in last place.
This is still just bad logic. For instance, in a theoretical league you could have 5 teams in the GOAT division with 120 wins, 115 wins, 110 wins, 109, and 108--and the 108 let's say has Bonds in his prime. Just because he is in a tough division or his team isn't that great with respect to division record does not make him extremely valuable. Wins/team are most times way overrated in MVP voting. Basically many people think MVP = Best Player on a great team which isn't the true definition.