Bad MVP awards tend to fall into these categories:

1) low OBP, lots of RBI's at a non-premium position (Andre Dawson and Juan Gonzalez are examples of this).

2) Good player on a play-off team, with clearly superior players on non play-off teams getting snubbed (Miguel Tejada over A-Rod in 2002).

3) Relief pitchers. All of these are bad selections. All of them.

His point is wrong tho. What makes it worse is that he clearly gets the idea of WAR but doesn't extend that to get that a player on a last place team might be doing more than any one player on a first place team.

This is still just bad logic. For instance, in a theoretical league you could have 5 teams in the GOAT division with 120 wins, 115 wins, 110 wins, 109, and 108--and the 108 let's say has Bonds in his prime. Just because he is in a tough division or his team isn't that great with respect to division record does not make him extremely valuable. Wins/team are most times way overrated in MVP voting. Basically many people think MVP = Best Player on a great team which isn't the true definition.

Verlander last year was fine.

It's the Eckersley and Rollie Fingers MVP's that are jokes.

If Verlander is fine then Doc Gooden should have won in '85.

One of the most ridiculous seasons ever submitted

Umm yeah, I don't disagree that Gooden should have won in '85.

If Schmidt hadn't had such a ridiculous year, Fernando would have been the logical MVP in the strike shortened 1981 season. He led all pitchers in complete games (11), shutouts (8), innings pitched (192.1) and strikeouts (180) with a .248 ERA (even batted .250). So picking a pitcher isn't always bad.

whooooosh

that verlander has an mvp and pedro doesn't is just laughable

not to say that verlander's season wasn't worthy, but holy **** at pedro

pedro was mvp in 1999

edit: i think anyways, maybe not

pudge. pedro has none

i remembered him getting screwed one year in favor of Pudge Rodriguez but I thought he'd won it another year, apparently not.

the year he got screwed, one of the reasons he lost was a New York writer left him completely off the ballot under the "he only pitched once every 5 days" horse****. the same guy then voted a Yankee pitcher in his top 3 a couple years later.

what pitcher was it loretta if you remember? Clemens?

Whoever wins this year instead of Trout

MVP is just a terrible award. lol @ writers voting for it or however the **** it's determined.

Have a computer do it, sort by WAR, ez game.