edgar pretty much dominated the 3rd round

this is crap.

cmon BJ one time.

edgar's stamina is insane

Edgar could have just retired BJ.

BJ needs to give it up. He is never gonna commit and be in as good of shape as his opponents at this level.

and the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th.

That was BJ's last fight boys

Wow Lauzon that was sick.

what the **** did you guys see in this fight that i didn't

1. every time edgar took penn to the ground he did NOTHING. no g&p, no submission application or even an attempt to apply one, he just lay there on top of him until penn got back up
2. edgar's punches were glancing blows at best. literally the most devestating play edgar had the entire fight was his superman leg sweep

this fight was not about edgar being dominant cuz he sure as **** wasn't. he kept moving around and showed great stamina yadda yadda yadda, but he basically won the fight because penn did literally NOTHING. i kept assuming he spent the first 2 rounds feeling out edgar but he basically spent ALL five rounds feeling out edgar and just spent the entire fight disinterested save for 2 takedown attempts at the start of the 4th and start of the 5th

horrible fight. edgar is not an impressive champion at all and wtf is wrong with penn

i think you're underestimating the toll edgar's jabs and light combos had on penn. i'm sure it was penns plan to gauge him out early rounds and go for strong takedowns toward the end but edgar's ultraaggressiveness got to him before he could feel him out.

wow, you should rewatch the fight...

Apparently the entire fight.

No, it wasn't the most exciting fight ever, but Edgar dominated BJ from start to finish.

Very weak event overall. Glad I saw it with several others and didn't pay for the whole thing myself.

The UFC really needs to steal from Pride FC and implement a yellow card/10% purse deduction for stalling.

I'll be the first to admit I wouldn't say this to Maynard's face but what's with the tramp stamp?

+1

This is a horrible idea imo. They already give bonuses for knockout of the night, fight of the night, etc., and Dana has criticized fighters publicly for boring fights in the past. Imo thats already pushing the line enough....these are world class athletes who are trained by world class trainers. If they happen to think that optimal strategy is to fight a "boring" fight, then so be it. Can you imagine Roger Goddell telling a NFL team that they can't run the ball and try to run out the clock with a big lead because its boring? Can you imagine David Stern tell a NBA team that they can't consistently use all 24 seconds of the shot clock and run a slow paced offense because thats boring? Stalling/running out the clock is a legit strategy and part of every sport, and I think that forcing fighters to fight suboptimally in favor of fighting a more "exciting" fight comes dangerously close to messing up the integrity of the sport

Well, the yellow cards in Pride weren't used just to keep people from stalling or running clock. IIRC, they hardly ever gave a yellow to a guy that scored a takedown and at least put on the appearance of being somewhat active on top. And if you can do that and the opponent can't improve his position then sure you should be able to run clock. But should a guy be able to run away and dance around and be unwilling to engage in order to protect his lead? That would get you a yellow in Pride and that's a good thing, imo. Same goes for when you get two guys who won't engage. That's not running clock, it's just a bad fight.

A lot of the time you'd go an entire event of 9 or 10 fights and not see a yellow, but I'm convinced that part of the reason Pride was so much better than the UFC was that the fighters knew that if they wanted their whole purse they had to fight.

I give Edgar props for continuing to go after BJ in the fourth and fifth instead of playing it safe.

Ok, fair enough....I wouldn't mind it only if the yellow cards were quite rare.



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Hmm, i think the best thing they could do is to not have decisions in title fights, should just be as many 5 minute rounds as it take for a winner by (T)KO or tapout. The implications for this would be so huge on strategy though, as i don't think Edgar could beat BJ by anything but a decision personally, same for when Sonnen nearly beat Silva had he lasted another 2 minutes.

oh please, edgar could go 5 more rounds while BJ gets both his eyes shut out while he tires out

Given the shocking state BJ is in right now, i kinda've agree, and im kinda backing myself into a corner by trying to defend BJ right now, i guess i'm hanging on to his former glory.

But start the fight again with both fighters knowing the fight has to end at their hands, i reckon BJ would beat Edgar way more than the opposite. Anyway, BJ just lost 5 rounds to nil, so im not gonna argue the point over who is the better fighter between them anymore.

The reason i brought up my point was because people were talking about stalling and wrestlers winning by points all the time, leading to rather boring fights. I said one idea is to have title fights that don't go to decision.

Or if you can pin down your opponents shoulders for a 3-count you win, maybe even bring in special guest referees to add to the drama.

I doubt many states would be willing to sanction this, and even if they did then it would only take one serious fatigue-based injury to make them change their minds. 5 rounds is grueling...hell 3 round fights are grueling....overtraining/overworking is the easiest way to injure yourself.

Don't forget tables, ladders and chairs.

There's no denying that adding tables, ladders, and chairs to the octagon would be more entertaining.

I think tag team MMA fights could work. Get rocked? Run to your corner and switch guys. One guy gets knocked out? Remaining guy has to fight by himself. 5 round fights, boom.

winner should be whoever gets out of the octagon first imo