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07-31-2017 , 01:09 PM
GSP faced tons of guys that did very little after he beat them, but I'm not really trying to take a dig at him.

Just saying DC ran through LHW with wrestling besides GOAT Bones. Kinda like GSP ran through WW besides Hendricks.
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07-31-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Great...Someone that dominates top class competition for a prolonged period of time.

Good...Someone that can beat most 2nd rank fighters.

This conversation spawned from......

Really?

Imo JJ is levels above Cormier both in the cage and who he has fought against.
So there is only 3 or so great fighters in the last 10 years? Or do you consider top flight condition great fighters also?
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07-31-2017 , 01:42 PM
GSP has had a major loss since Hendricks tho

Spoiler:
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07-31-2017 , 03:11 PM
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So there is only 3 or so great fighters in the last 10 years? Or do you consider top flight condition great fighters also?
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OK, he's a great wrasslehumper.
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07-31-2017 , 03:18 PM
Sick timing and sell on that dive by GSP
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08-01-2017 , 04:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSrKlS0eRR4

Woodley going off on UFC/Dana to Ariel Helwani. NSFW.
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08-01-2017 , 06:54 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSrKlS0eRR4

Woodley going off on UFC/Dana to Ariel Helwani. NSFW.
It worked for the mooch.
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08-03-2017 , 09:19 AM
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+1000

White is such an idiot. He views the fighters as indentured servants whose job is to "just bleed" and provide entertaining fights, entertaining in this context meaning taking any fight offered and then putting their head down and bombing away without regard for their chances to win, their health, or their long term career.

The fighter has the same job in any other sport: Win. That's it, nothing else. It is not his/her job to be entertaining, the sport itself should be entertaining regardless and if it isn't that is not the fault of the fighter that is the fault of the rulesmakers.

Woodley took the route most likely to give him victory which is exactly what he should do. It would be moronic of him to do anything else. I'm impressed that he is committed enough to stick to that kind of game plan. Good for him.
I can't disagree with you, just change your nickname to Walder or something.
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08-04-2017 , 12:47 AM
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08-10-2017 , 06:11 PM
So no one got a problem that lawyer won ?
I thought he had a draw at best ( 10-8) for cerone would of been a possibility in round 2 imo).
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08-11-2017 , 01:49 PM
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So no one got a problem that lawyer won ?
I thought he had a draw at best ( 10-8) for cerone would of been a possibility in round 2 imo).
I wonder if Cerrone would have gotten a title shot. I guess so.

Looks like all three judges gave Robbie 1 and 3.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/833...Donald-Cerrone

Not much controversy - just disappointment.
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08-11-2017 , 04:57 PM
UFC 214 apparently does 850k buys. Woof

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08-11-2017 , 05:04 PM
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I wonder if Cerrone would have gotten a title shot. I guess so.

Looks like all three judges gave Robbie 1 and 3.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/833...Donald-Cerrone

Not much controversy - just disappointment.
Yeah i got that , but cerone should had a 10-8 to make it a best a draw imo...
It was like 28-3 in round 2 for hit landed for cerrone.
The crowd was disappointed because I guess they saw the same fight ...
Just can't see how Robbie got 1&3....

Anyway, im glad he won if he gets the next title fight.
Tyrone will have no choice but to really fights!
Robbie will make it so...
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08-11-2017 , 05:17 PM
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Yeah i got that , but cerone should had a 10-8 to make it a best a draw imo...
It was like 28-3 in round 2 for hit landed for cerrone.
The crowd was disappointed because I guess they saw the same fight ...
Just can't see how Robbie got 1&3....

Anyway, im glad he won if he gets the next title fight.
Tyrone will have no choice but to really fights!
Robbie will make it so...
A draw would have been interesting. It might have given Masvidal a title shot coming off a loss.
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08-11-2017 , 05:25 PM
Masdival/Lawler seems logical now. Or Wonderboy vs 1 of them.

Wonderboy situation is weird though since he can't fight for the title again as long as Woodley has it. Atleast not for like 2 years at the earliest.

And Woodley is out 6 months with a torn labrum regardless. Probably still a pretty good chance his next fight is vs GSP.
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08-11-2017 , 08:17 PM
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UFC 214 apparently does 850k buys. Woof
More was expected? That's right in the range I would've figured.

Neither is as big as Rampage was.
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08-11-2017 , 08:23 PM
1st fight in 2015 did 800k buys

so 850k is pretty strong considering it was kinda overshadowed by McG/May

most UFCs do 250-350k these days because y'all be streaming all the events
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08-12-2017 , 12:34 AM
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More was expected? That's right in the range I would've figured.

Neither is as big as Rampage was.
I certainly expected more. The card had a Cowboy/Lawler fight, Cyborg battering someone, and two title fights, one of which was promoted very well and features one of the most famous athletes in the UFC and a top level rivalry.

This card should have broken 1M without breaking a sweat. I bought it and the last card I paid for was 200. I"m shocked it didn't do better considering Jones/Cormier I did 800k with Cowboy/Jury and basically nothing else.
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08-12-2017 , 12:37 AM
1st fight between them Bones son'd him tho. It didn't have the buildup that the 1st fight did where it looked like Jones may finally meet his match. It still felt like a big fight, but that felt like the biggest LHW fight since Chuck/Tito as well as the biggest fight of Bones career. Betting lines reflect this as Bones was -300 for this fight and only like -160ish for the 2015 fight.

And again, people shelling out $99 to see Floyd/Conor a month later probably did cannibalize the buys a little bit.

I think more people stream now than did 2.5 yrs ago as well, but that is less quantifiable.
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08-12-2017 , 12:42 AM
I think the Floyd/Conor thing is probably why. Can't see 800k buying the first fight and then not wanting to see a decent rematch plus three other interesting fights.
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08-12-2017 , 12:45 AM
The 1st fight was nothing special though.

The reason the rematch was intriguing was because Jones ****ed his life up for a few years after it and DC kept beating high level opponents.

If Jones doesn't run into all that stuff and just keeps winning and then they fight 2 years later, it probably doesn't even do 500k buys.

And I just thought of this but Bones was a bigger star in early 2015 than he is right now. He was the biggest star in the UFC then. Then McGregor and Rousey came along and broke all sorts of records as he was suspended and he just kinda got put on the backburner. Maybe with his KO of DC and the Brock talk he is getting that mojo back but I think he was a bigger star on 1/2/2015 than on 7/28/2017.
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08-12-2017 , 12:49 AM
And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Jon did **** himself up tho. And he did look more vulnerable against OSP. The UFC put some serious promotion work into this one, to the point I was seeing ads during other stuff, which I feel like rarely happens.

This is as good a card as they can make with someone not named McGregor, and it did 800k, that's disappointing imo
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08-12-2017 , 12:51 AM
My point is that was the main reason it was intriguing, but other than that we already saw Jones school him.

Tough for the rematch to do as well as the 1st fight when that happens.

I'm not saying Rumble/Jones would've done more business, but I wanted Rumble to beat DC back in April to see that fight rather than Bones/DC 2.
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08-12-2017 , 12:58 AM
I think it's interesting in the boxes it checks
[x] Marketable, maybe-GOAT fighter
[x] Decent rivalry
[x] Additional title fight with whiney heel
[x] Cowboy/Lawler

This fight has a lot of things going for it and did 800k. Without adding Conor into that, what does the UFC do to break 1M?
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08-12-2017 , 01:13 AM
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I think it's interesting in the boxes it checks
[x] Marketable, maybe-GOAT fighter
[x] Decent rivalry
[x] Additional title fight with whiney heel
[x] Cowboy/Lawler

This fight has a lot of things going for it and did 800k. Without adding Conor into that, what does the UFC do to break 1M?
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