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IDK if anyone saw but former MMA fighter War Machine got a life sentence for abusing Christy Mack his ex. I think she was near death in the incident, broke a ton of bones and probably has PTSD.

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06-06-2017 , 12:43 PM

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IDK if anyone saw but former MMA fighter War Machine got a life sentence for abusing Christy Mack his ex. I think she was near death in the incident, broke a ton of bones and probably has PTSD.

He also said he feels like offing himself during trial like Aaron Herandez, i feel he's strongly considering it, think he does kill himself in prison. If you go back & watch his joe rogan podcast appearance you realize what a messed up life he had, not to exonerate him from what he had done but growing up in that type of environment brings forth flawed human beings.

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06-06-2017 , 01:17 PM

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I actually liked him in TUF - felt kind of sorry for him (plus, he's not too bright let's face it). It's no excuse for what he did though.

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06-06-2017 , 03:07 PM

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Guy cleans out his division to the point they have to have a worldwide talent search just to find someone he hasn't beat decisively: what a boring loser.

My point is there was some exciting fights for him up a weight class that would make him money and he decided to stay at his weight and fight a nobody off the street. Now he's complaining about not getting promoted or big money fights

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06-06-2017 , 03:17 PM

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To be fair, he has fought Cruz (and I think some other dudes a weight class higher) and wanted to fight Cody. I think he sees TJ as a fight that offers a lot of risk, with not a lot of upside, financial or career-wise. That being said, it sounded like he may have actually agreed to it if not for the stipulation that he'd have to have to simultaneously prepare for another guy if TJ failed to make weight (a big possibility).

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06-06-2017 , 03:41 PM

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i think it is the other way around....
It actually worsen his resume if he does not want to fight TJ if he really believe is the p4p best fighter.

Beating TJ would kinda like put more credit on his title.
Beating a guy that was a champion in a higher class division.
I mean in the spot DJ is, whom champion did he beat ?

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06-06-2017 , 03:54 PM

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He beat Tachi Palace Fights champion Ian McCall!

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06-06-2017 , 04:31 PM

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The situation is pretty ridiculous actually:
UFC: hey fight Ray Borg
MM: Cool
UFC: Actually, fight TJ
MM: Ok, but you have to guarantee me that he'll make weight. Promise me my pay and his if he misses
UFC: lol no, how about well let you fight either TJ or Ray Borg, but you won't know for sure until 24 hours out?
MM: ...

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06-06-2017 , 04:59 PM

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Or he could just fight tj if he misses weight by a few lbs like every other fighter with a spine does. He can complain about dillashaw potentially missing weight all he wants, ray borg has missed weight twice already & i dare say is as big if not a bigger liability to missing weight again. I don't see how you can expect ufc to pay alot of $ to promote that event & be okay with canceling the fight & still paying the fighter if a guy misses weight, horrible for the fans & the company. Dj is being abit unreasonable imo with his demands just to get a easy fight with a guy way too green to fight for the title in either borg or pettis.

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06-06-2017 , 06:06 PM

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But that's simply not true. Fights get cancelled due to weight issues all the time and asking the dude to train for two different guys is dumb.

TJ isn't a FyW, so if he wants a shot, he can earn it. If he somehow wants a superfight and all parties are cool, SO needs some promise if TJ predictably misses weight.

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06-06-2017 , 06:28 PM

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The real odd thing herr, if MM is to be believed is the amount to which the UFC is catering to TJ. Is he a mega start and I'd somehow forgotten?

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06-06-2017 , 06:36 PM

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But that's simply not true. Fights get cancelled due to weight issues all the time and asking the dude to train for two different guys is dumb.

TJ isn't a FyW, so if he wants a shot, he can earn it. If he somehow wants a superfight and all parties are cool, SO needs some promise if TJ predictably misses weight.

You as a fan would be happy if tj fought either borg or tj & denied to fight cause either guy missed weight by a few lbs? i can't even think of one fight that got canceled cause someone missed weight but was still healthy enough to continue fighting & if was due to the fighter who made weight denying him that opportunity. Usually it's commissions which cancel the fight & not the fighter themselves due to a bevy of issues relating to the weight.

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06-06-2017 , 06:39 PM

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Meh, I think DJ's slowly realized that his pay is absolute garbage compared to his results so he's really starting to micro-manage his career and do only what's best for him. His whole thing about TJ missing weight is that it's no longer a title fight and it no longer allows him to break the streak for title defenses. I do believe that if the UFC had been taking care of DJ and making sure he got paid, that he's the type of dude who would do UFC a solid and agree to fight an overweight TJ or unplanned Borg, but right now he's in full spite mode (which is why he said "screw it, scrap the division then!")

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06-06-2017 , 06:57 PM

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He beat Tachi Palace Fights champion Ian McCall!

After he fought him to a draw the first go-around.

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To be fair, he has fought Cruz (and I think some other dudes a weight class higher) and wanted to fight Cody. I think he sees TJ as a fight that offers a lot of risk, with not a lot of upside, financial or career-wise. That being said, it sounded like he may have actually agreed to it if not for the stipulation that he'd have to have to simultaneously prepare for another guy if TJ failed to make weight (a big possibility).

Sure, before flyweight was an option.

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Meh, I think DJ's slowly realized that his pay is absolute garbage compared to his results so he's really starting to micro-manage his career and do only what's best for him. His whole thing about TJ missing weight is that it's no longer a title fight and it no longer allows him to break the streak for title defenses. I do believe that if the UFC had been taking care of DJ and making sure he got paid, that he's the type of dude who would do UFC a solid and agree to fight an overweight TJ or unplanned Borg, but right now he's in full spite mode (which is why he said "screw it, scrap the division then!")

But not compared to his draw. He has no leverage for a reason.

Fighter pay is not a meritocracy based on results. It's based on how much people want to see you fight.

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06-06-2017 , 07:05 PM

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In case anyone forgot how Mighty Mouse/Uncle Creepy I ended:

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06-06-2017 , 07:26 PM

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I do agree its a pretty ****ty situation and the UFC in general is pretty ****ty towards its fighters.

I just feel like hes the guy that would prefer to headline a few more free cards vs people hes far superior to and get the record for consecutive title defenses than to test himself vs better competition. I think hes a great fighter and could have it all, the streak, the better drawing fights and bigger money.

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06-10-2017 , 11:55 AM

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06-10-2017 , 12:44 PM

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One thing I've noticed is it seems like UFC is taking forever to release PPV #'s these days. Is it because of how bad the sales are?

They still haven't released for UFC 210: Woodley/Wonder Boy.

New ownership must think letting the public know that info isn't in their best interests.

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06-10-2017 , 03:04 PM

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Sales of anything not Conor/Ronda have been right around 300,000. They aren't doing great numbers and probably stopped releasing them for that reason.

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06-10-2017 , 03:13 PM

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Nobody ever leaves the table at their peak moment, but the Fertittas sure did.

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06-10-2017 , 03:26 PM

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Nobody ever leaves the table at their peak moment, but the Fertittas sure did.

No joke. Bought the UFC for 2M, sold for 4.2B when that valuation had to be 20x the company's actual value.

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06-10-2017 , 09:06 PM

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They needed the khabib vs ferguson fight badly, khabib could actually be the next star if he can ever make weight again at 155 just due to that huge russian following. If jones vs dc sucks though then iono, i think many mma fans might be turned off badly by the sport, conor badly needs to come back. Ufc needs to offer conor like 25-30mill a fight n tell him to forget mayweather fight.

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06-11-2017 , 12:55 AM

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BB fights always deliver.

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06-11-2017 , 10:41 AM

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Lewis just quit in the cage last night, don't want to see him again.

Just googled and he's thinking of retiring. Good.

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06-11-2017 , 11:35 AM

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They sold UFC like 2 days after UFC 200. Good move by them. After they sold it Ronda left, Tate retired, and Conor is at a level where he's not just gonna do whatever they say anymore. Good luck to the new owners LOL.

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