Was supposed to meet Conor on Monday, then got changed to Tuesday and just found out today that he won't be appearing here at all.

Ffs

Floyd is an incredibly skilled boxer, it's not all speed and reflexes we're not talking about Prince Naseem Hamed here.

Floyd >>>> average title holder >> perennial contender >>> journeyman boxer >> random golden glover >>> Conor

The best amateur boxers beat Conor, probably 5 or 6 here in Ireland that he'd struggle with.

I'm sure he doesnt give a toss though, especially if there is £30m+ involved.

Yes for sure, but there is a point at which he's only a warm favourite surely - way off no doubt but what if he was 45 and CM 33 (and still looking in his prime)?

Maybe it's different, but once up a time Roy Jones was just insanely good but he deteriorated pretty quickly. Even with him though he'd still easily win now against MMA fighters at the same weight I guess (?).

He may struggle, but wasn't he a boxing champion of Ireland at youth level or something? With his strength, I'm not seeing him losing over 12 3-min rounds against many amateurs who are fighting 3 rounders. They may score more points for a few rounds though I guess, and they have big gloves to lessen his power.

while Roy was awesome and has his own rap song he also fought firefighters and such

Floyd made title belt holders look silly

50 yr old Floyd should be a favorite over prime Conor as long as he's in shape

What if Conor could fight with UFC gloves? How would that change the complexion of the fight?

Not in the slightest. Conor will never land a decent punch and it's not like Floyd has a glass chin even if Conor somehow did get a good shot or two.

Might as well talk about a college team beating a pro team.

Floyd is probably the most skilled boxer of all time and has incredible stamina. Connor have been training boxing his entire life and Floyd would still clown him in a boxing match.

Yes, for any amount I have and could possibly muster. Floyd is a better technical boxer at this moment than any boxer alive. His age won't help him, but it won't hinder him to the point he'll lose to an amateur in a 12 Rd. Fight.

RJJ relied on physical gifts over skill, although he was remarkably skilled. Floyd is the other way around.

Bernard Hopkins was almost entirely skill over athleticism (in comparison to other elite boxers). He lost to RJJ when they fought in their primes but won once RJJ started to decline. Skills and power are the last to go.

And then what? I never get tired of this gif:




This is worst case scenario for Floyd. Chino has thunderous power for a WW and has lured Floyd into trying a pull counter (a move Conor loves fyi). Instead of throwing only one punch like most of Floyd's opponents do, Chino throws a right behind it and hits Floyd flush while Floyd's momentum is going forward.

This punch puts mortals to sleep, but Floyd eats the pinch and staggers off. He was hit in about as bad a position as a boxer like Floyd can and didn't go down. Even if Conor can land that left (lol), 8 oz. Gloves and Floyd's chin will handle it.

Terrible human being, terrific boxer.

Kenny broke them up once he saw money hurt

Paid off obv

Doubt you'll find another 4/5 clips of Floyd getting hit as clearly as that.

He's made a fool out of so many top class boxers by basically just standing in front of them and making them miss. I'd give Conor less than 1% chance .

Judah and Mosley both cracked him pretty good. Castillo I'd assume got a few good punches in as well as many thought he should've won the 1st fight.

All I can think of.

He may have been all Irish champion (I've no idea tbh) but there are dozens of them crowned every year. Mc has a punchers chance v the top amatuers, pretending otherwise is laughable.

A friend won a few all Ireland titles (fought in America/Canada and around Europe), not one to be messed with. But even in his prime I wouldn't bet a brass penny on him v any pro boxer.

Not sure what was going on there, the Ref yells time before the right is even thrown, was it end of round?

Oh and the main reason the figure is 15 is because Floyd claims Conor has only made 9 million in his career. I'm sure they will negotiate his figure a little higher but I could def see Conor taking the 15 million.

Think about it,

15 million plus PPV fighting Floyd

VS

4 million plus PPV from UFC fighting Diaz for 5 rounds again

Haha, it was the end of the round. Floyd likes to try and set up a pull counter towards the end of rounds to rpotect against things like that.

Can't read, hugely high fight IQ

Mosley got him good and Judah actually knocked him down (Floyd's glove went down, ref missed it). Manny hit him flush quite a few times but Manny has limited power at 147

People always underestimate the skill differnec from good to elite in any sport. It's a little like those Alabama vs. Jax Jags questions.

If you guys saw me spar you might say I look like I know what I'm doing, but I sparred with a golden gloves champ and he hit me so much I'm still not entirely convinced he didn't bring friends in the ring with him. That guy routinely gets touched up by a 6-10-1 pro boxer that comes to the gym occasionally. The air gets thin very quickly at the top

Fair enough.

Says a lot though when you lads can tell me the few boxers that have actually landed a clean punch on Mayweather.

I still doubt Mc has the skills the likes of Mosley/Manny had in the ring to get close enough to connect.

Mayweather is also one of greatest in-fight adjusters. He has so many little tools in his arsenal that he uses to counter and neutralize his opponent's moves that disrupted their game.

MMA adjustments are harder than boxing adjustments because you can be attacked in so many more ways. For example, if you try to adjust to high kicks by checking/blocking them with your legs, you open yourself up for takedowns.

Conor isn't on the same planet as Mosley or Manny. They probably would still kick Conors ass if they scheduled a fight.

This is a win win for Conor. If he loses he still gets 15 plus PPV. IF he somehow knocks Floyd out (unlikely obv) he's the GOAT.

Both these guys think abstractly and much deeper about their own sport than their opponents do so I am curious what would happen when they fight and what strategies they would use.

Probably? Senator Manny would knock Conor out. Like "he's not gettin' up Jim" knock Conor out.

Antonio Margarito is a better boxing than Conor by a wide margin and has a 73 inch reach and fought Manny at a 150 lb CW. He made the mistake of making fun of Freddie Roach (Manny's trainer) and his tremors as a result of Parkinson's disease.

Manny battered Margarito for 12 rounds and literally broke his face bad enough that they postponed the surgery a day so that the swelling could go down.

Imagine what even bible-thumping Manny would do to Conor after that build up.

Yeah, I'm not sure how much I buy into the "Conor is done after Floyd clowns him" talk. I can definitely see where it's coming from, but Conor slappies gobbled up Conor/Nate II after he got styled on, so I'm sure they'd just say it was a different sport and talk about how Conor's a genius for getting that cash (which...is probably true) and go right back to being a PPV-buying fan if he decided to go back to MMA.