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11-18-2016 , 09:42 AM
Brock Lesnar got a title fight after going one-one in the whole ufc.

Conor sparked about six opponents before he fought Aldo.

Still not saying he deserved a LW title shot but the UFC has been at this nonsense for ages. And hendo got a shot recently after going two-six.
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11-18-2016 , 09:51 AM
RT has a point about the UFC making "promotional" title fights/fights that aren't truly warranted (ala bisping vs hendo 2) but Conor transcends that in this scenario based on body of work; despite the single loss to Diaz. Furthermore, he backed up the title shot with one of the most dominant performances in UFC title fight history

You have been to give credit where credit is due
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11-18-2016 , 09:54 AM
Also, there is a valid argument that he shouldn't have gotten the title shot, because khabib is undefeated. It's criminal and unprecedented what Dana is doing to khabib
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11-18-2016 , 09:54 AM
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I've watched all of his fights and attended 3 live. Think it's you whose ignorant as to how things work fanboy. Conor was allowed to move up and fight for 2 titles which was denied to Aldo/Petis in the past, he was given an immediate rematch vs Diaz when Dana was against it followed by a title shot even when Khabib/Ferguson were more deserving at 155.
Okay, you're right. Conor is so big the UFC doesn't want to hold onto his exclusive rights that they have contractually.

Makes perfect business sense. They'll prbly let him become champ of other orgs too, that'll really make the UFC look good that they have the best guy. They let him fight in diff divisions so it's apples to apples.
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11-18-2016 , 10:04 AM
I was posting about me regarding Conor to illustrate I'm objective and not a hater ldo.

And the Conor backstory is known. He would cite it as his okay for fighting in 2 divisions bc he defended both belts. I also don't think he's holding up a division like so many bitch bc he's so active. This fight should be a 145 defense or he should be stripped prbly tho.
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11-18-2016 , 11:15 AM
There is a slim chance of Conor defending his 145 belt. That weight cut was bordering on insane before the IV restrictions started being enforced. Conor is now a 28 year old millionaire with a family. I'd rank the following opponents in order of likelyhood as:

1. Nate Diaz- they're going to have to wait until Nate fights again to make this happen, but if Nate fights and wins again it will be hard for the UFC to resist this matchup. It's the biggest money matchup by far and the history between the two, as well as the quality of the second fight, make this the most likely option at this juncture, particularly since there's a likelihood Conor takes some time off

2. Tyron woodley- It has to be tempting for Conor to go for the trifecta- a three division champion would cement his legacy as the GOAT, and he has already shown a willingness to go up in weight in the past. The drawback of losing is also much less. Woodley is a much larger man with vastly superior physical tools; Conor wouldn't have to explain himself much in the event of a loss- and they could go on promoting big fights at 155 (it's also the only option where he can't lose a belt through losing an actual fight)

3. Floyd Mayweather- This would be a true promoters dream. Dana has explicitly said he would allow it to happen, and a member of floyds possee (50 cent) claims that Floyd is interested too. I think this option is a fringe dark horse, but who wouldn't want to see a potential matchup between two larger than life characters?

4. Khabib/tony ferguson- I think Dana will match these two up and put the winner on the backburner for a potential fight with Conor. I really don't see either of them getting an immediate match with Conor given all the better promotional fights and the relative obscurity of these two young fighters.

5. Aldo- very minute chance of this happening, but Conor is the champ at 145 and also is the interim champ so it has to be in the discussion. I wouldn't personally want to see this fight again, especially after watching what Conor did to Alvarez; I don't see this being a competitive or compelling matchup
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11-18-2016 , 11:25 AM
Everyone claiming Conor can't make 145 is just talk. His walk around weight now is lower than his walk around weight when he fought Aldo. The only thing that stops Conor from defending at 145 is Him not wanting to make the weight.
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11-18-2016 , 11:26 AM
I think he would be a lot more likely to defend at 145 if the #1 contender was a big draw he hasn't already fought.
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11-18-2016 , 11:29 AM
What Dana says means next to nothing.
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11-18-2016 , 11:33 AM
Originally I thought there was no chance he fights Khabib next but I'm thinking there is more of a chance if he doesn't defend at 45 which he probably won't if he gets stripped during negotiations.
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11-18-2016 , 11:44 AM
Agreed. Khabib is selling wolf tickets like an expert. Meanwhile Ferg is an absolute moron the way he's anti-campaigned for it.
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11-18-2016 , 11:45 AM
Guys, what chance would you say that it's someone other than Diaz or woodley?
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11-18-2016 , 11:48 AM
I don't see how Conor can really justify fighting Tony. I can't really see why Tony didn't get on the mic and plead his case after his win but I'm not surprised he's quiet now after seeing the Khabib fight.
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11-18-2016 , 11:49 AM
My list looks like this
Khabib, Woodley, Aldo, Diaz, Halloway
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11-18-2016 , 12:23 PM
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Okay, you're right. Conor is so big the UFC doesn't want to hold onto his exclusive rights that they have contractually.

Makes perfect business sense. They'll prbly let him become champ of other orgs too, that'll really make the UFC look good that they have the best guy. They let him fight in diff divisions so it's apples to apples.
Yeah dude because Bellator and DREAM would sell just like a mayweather fight.
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11-18-2016 , 12:40 PM
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My list looks like this
Khabib, Woodley, Aldo, Diaz, Halloway
I like that, but I think he will fight someone that won't hurt his chance at keeping his belts. I think a fight at 145 would be his easiest fight though, or say he wants to take a year and a half off because of his baby.
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11-18-2016 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kowabunghole
RT has a point about the UFC making "promotional" title fights/fights that aren't truly warranted (ala bisping vs hendo 2) but Conor transcends that in this scenario based on body of work; despite the single loss to Diaz. Furthermore, he backed up the title shot with one of the most dominant performances in UFC title fight history

You have been to give credit where credit is due
I understand all the reasons for it, it doesn't make it any less dumb.

It's a tough spot because if you don't let the champ of the lower division move up and immediately challenge for the belt, you devalue the lower division.

At the same time, if you allow the guy to move up and immediately fight for the title, you run the risk of a guy being champ of a division he's never foight in (or is 1-1 in). That's equally dumb

Again, I know all the reasons why it happens, I just wish they'd do non-title catch weights or something.
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11-18-2016 , 12:59 PM
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My list looks like this
Reggie, JayZ, Tupac and Biggie
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11-18-2016 , 01:23 PM
I honestly hope he doesn't fight Woodley. He has too many fights at 45 and 55.
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11-18-2016 , 03:14 PM
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Agree, and it's not as if Floyd hasn't bloodied and battered up opponents in his career. One fight I specifically remember was the Arturo Gatti fight and then of course we saw what happened in the Ricky Hatton fight. Those brawler type fighters with slower hand speed never stood a chance against Floyd. Mayweather would do the same to McGregor imo. Nothing against McGregor and I really enjoy his personality and his skill set in his sport but he would not just get out pointed by Floyd if they fought in a boxing rules match. Floyd would bloody and batter him up badly if he didn't get knocked out before that point.
Conor talking **** for 3 months in the build up to the imaginary fight would lead to real bad intentions from Floyd imo.
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11-18-2016 , 03:32 PM
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Eddie looked like a good wrestler vs Anthony Pettis. He totally committed to the ground game in a Clay Guida like fashion in that one.
that look like mediocre wrestling to me, pushing him against the fence for like 13 minutes with no real threat. RDA's ground game would have been more dangerous for Conor imo, but I highly doubt RDA survives too long either. And yeah, like others said, Pettis is not Conor, but Eddie didn't think so ;D
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11-18-2016 , 03:45 PM
UFC sold us some wolf tickets on this Eddie fight. They were marketing him as a bigger stronger wrestler and he's not bigger or stronger than Conor. He barely qualifies as a wrestler. He might be bigger than Mendez, doubt he's much stronger, and there is no way he's a better MMA wrestler. He outwrestled Pettis by holding him to the cage and everyone who's ever tried to outwrestle Pettis has succeeded afaik
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11-18-2016 , 04:26 PM
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that look like mediocre wrestling to me, pushing him against the fence for like 13 minutes with no real threat. RDA's ground game would have been more dangerous for Conor imo, but I highly doubt RDA survives too long either. And yeah, like others said, Pettis is not Conor, but Eddie didn't think so ;D
What happened to RDA? He worked Diaz and Pettis, and crushed Cerrone, then gets beat by Alvarez and Ferguson. Also, Pettis looked like the next big thing and then he fell off the Earth. Looks like nobody can keep their title and this is a good time for Conor to show his greatness by cleaning the division.
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11-18-2016 , 04:39 PM
USADA hurt a lot of people.

I've heard theories that Pettis let the game get to him and stopped training so hard. He was mainly just exposed as easily taken down.

Rogan claims RDA passed out for 3min due to dehydration the day of the Alvarez fight which if true seems to explain a lot.
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11-18-2016 , 05:45 PM
Floyd admits he was done after Ghatti fight:


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