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01-28-2012 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsRainingMen
i hate the kershaw/lincecum picks simply cuz i think taking pitching in the top 10 is a huge mistake in this draft. plenty of aces will be available in the upcoming rounds, but there won't be many, if any, franchise hitters
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01-28-2012 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikita0
Stanton is a sick prospect but he hasn't exactly moved mountains yet.
I'm pretty sure if you go take a look at hittracker you will see that Stanton could possibly move a mountain with one of his bombs.

Really glad we got Stanton at 8. He is 22yr 2mo old. When this is done he will be 32 and probably have 400 home runs. Look for his production to increase with the Marlins new ball park this year too, as Stanton's drives are usually on a line and not moonshots, and that pesky left field wall that was at Dolphins Stadium is gone.

He has yet to develop the ability to steal bases but that will definitely come with time as he has top tier speed. Also what people overlook because of his huge bat is his throwing arm, which might be the best OF arm in the bigs.
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01-28-2012 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsRainingMen
i hate the kershaw/lincecum picks simply cuz i think taking pitching in the top 10 is a huge mistake in this draft. plenty of aces will be available in the upcoming rounds, but there won't be many, if any, franchise hitters
Elite pitching for this draft is scarcer than anything else, and if you think Lincecum fell off by that much the last 2 years you simply can't read or process information very well.

Last edited by Mikita0; 01-28-2012 at 03:14 AM. Reason: re: SBR42
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01-28-2012 , 03:14 AM
the scarcity isn't even as big of a factor as the variance/arms falling off involved with pitching

although the two influence each other, i guess. makes hitters have a clearer elite we can be more confident in

Last edited by pc roommate; 01-28-2012 at 03:15 AM. Reason: i actually wasn't replying to mikita and my opinion on what is scarce is different than his
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01-28-2012 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by shaft88
I'm pretty sure if you go take a look at hittracker you will see that Stanton could possibly move a mountain with one of his bombs.

Really glad we got Stanton at 8. He is 22yr 2mo old. When this is done he will be 32 and probably have 400 home runs. Look for his production to increase with the Marlins new ball park this year too, as Stanton's drives are usually on a line and not moonshots, and that pesky left field wall that was at Dolphins Stadium is gone.

He has yet to develop the ability to steal bases but that will definitely come with time as he has top tier speed. Also what people overlook because of his huge bat is his throwing arm, which might be the best OF arm in the bigs.
These are fair points, but

extrapolating, how does it work?
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01-28-2012 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pc roommate
the scarcity isn't even as big of a factor as the variance/arms falling off involved with pitching

although the two influence each other, i guess. makes hitters have a clearer elite we can be more confident in
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../lincecum0707/

Yes, the article is from 2008, and is written by Tom Verducci, but it explains why Lincecum is a better bet than most pitchers not to fall off.
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01-28-2012 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikita0
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../lincecum0707/

Yes, the article is from 2008, and is written by Tom Verducci, but it explains why Lincecum is a better bet than most pitchers not to fall off.
tallest midget argument

Last edited by pc roommate; 01-28-2012 at 03:20 AM. Reason: and it isn't just wear and tear that makes pitcher perfomances markedly more volatile
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01-28-2012 , 03:24 AM
enjoy your lilliputians.
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01-28-2012 , 03:24 AM
I believe I own picks 41,42. 81,82. etc etc (unless im ******ed and don't understand draft order)

I'm going to be open throughout this thing to moving back or up depending on a few factors.

G10's GM phone will always be on.
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01-28-2012 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikita0
These are fair points, but

extrapolating, how does it work?
yes yes yes i know.

But I have a boner for Stanton bigger than sportscenter's for Tebow. I picked him up off waivers in a keeper league 2 seasons ago and still have control of him this year for a 16th round pick.

I got MLB.tv last season pretty much just to watch the Marlins.

Also one more thing I like about Stanton's game is how short his swing is. If you look at the two home runs starting with the first at :38 in the video that thedeezy posted, he hits two 450' bombs and doesn't even swing the bat past his torso on the way back. I am not worried about many back/shoulder injuries in his future.
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01-28-2012 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by shaft88
yes yes yes i know.

But I have a boner for Stanton bigger than sportscenter's for Tebow. I picked him up off waivers in a keeper league 2 seasons ago and still have control of him this year for a 16th round pick.

I got MLB.tv last season pretty much just to watch the Marlins.

Also one more thing I like about Stanton's game is how short his swing is. If you look at the two home runs starting with the first at :38 in the video that thedeezy posted, he hits two 450' bombs and doesn't even swing the bat past his torso on the way back. I am not worried about many back/shoulder injuries in his future.
Cool stuff. Definitely going to watch Marlins games this year.
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01-28-2012 , 03:52 AM
sorry guys....went out earlier after mikita didnt pick for a while and forgot to check thread

my partner has since went to bed and not really sure if I can pick without him

might have to wait till tmrw
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01-28-2012 , 03:54 AM
in the meanwhile longoria and tulo are clear top 5 options

don't think anyone else picked has been in the top 5
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01-28-2012 , 04:02 AM
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in the meanwhile longoria and tulo are clear top 5 options

don't think anyone else picked has been in the top 5
lol
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01-28-2012 , 04:03 AM
In 2008-2009 Lincecum averaged a 171 ERA+, 0.4 HR/9, 3.0 BB/9, and 10.5 K/9.

In the last two seasons he's averaged fewer innings per start, fewer K's, more walks, and more homeruns allowed. He's still really really good, but do people really expect him to keep repeating 08-09? Really?
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01-28-2012 , 04:06 AM
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lol
sry bro
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01-28-2012 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AGame18
in the meanwhile longoria and tulo are clear top 5 options

don't think anyone else picked has been in the top 5

missdunkcoachshakeshead.gif

interested to see the rest of your "Top 5"
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01-28-2012 , 04:12 AM
Stanton & Upton are unquestionable top 5 players in this draft.

You like to say stupid stuff to stir the pot, so do you I guess.
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01-28-2012 , 04:25 AM
it's certainly not stupid. you can disagree but I'm sure many agree with me

Upton is top 10. Not sure about Stanton but I'd never take him in the top 10. I don't care how young he is he's not a proven enough commodity. As I hinted to earlier, I think it's soooo much better to take a proven entity and get 6 years out of him than a guy with 1 good season under his belt who is 23 or whatever. No one will have a team young enough all around to compete for a full 10 years anyway. Stanton doesn't even project to be a superstar anyway, just a big power guy with solid D. But he's so much more of a ? than other guys.

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01-28-2012 , 04:33 AM
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No one will have a team young enough all around to compete for a full 10 years anyway.
shhh
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01-28-2012 , 04:47 AM
pitching top 10 is probably a spew, and Lincecum is definitely not a good pick. He turns 28 this year, and his velocity and strikeout rate keep going down every year.

Plus you can keep talking about how he won't get injured, but every pitcher is one pitch away from a major arm problem, no matter how "durable"
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01-28-2012 , 06:10 AM
I understand this is just for fun but I'm curious if you all plan on following this longer term, and how you'd really keep score? Or do you just look for some kind of consensus on who won the draft and that's that?


I don't know if any of you play the challenge games or even know they exist but it seems like they were made for the people in this thread. Decent time and cash commitment but fun as hell (for stat geeks at least) addictive tho.
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01-28-2012 , 07:18 AM
Will be following this draft. I had no idea how people would draft or what was optimal but the first guy that came to mind hasn't been picked yet, which was a bit shocking to me until I read all the picks/comments. He should go soon.
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01-28-2012 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AGame18
it's certainly not stupid. you can disagree but I'm sure many agree with me

Upton is top 10. Not sure about Stanton but I'd never take him in the top 10. I don't care how young he is he's not a proven enough commodity. As I hinted to earlier, I think it's soooo much better to take a proven entity and get 6 years out of him than a guy with 1 good season under his belt who is 23 or whatever. No one will have a team young enough all around to compete for a full 10 years anyway. Stanton doesn't even project to be a superstar anyway, just a big power guy with solid D. But he's so much more of a ? than other guys.
What, hes 22 and already has two very good seasons , if he improves even slightly, he could be a 7+win player for decade+

At this age I'd expect a big improvement in OBP and K% going forward
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01-28-2012 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AGame18
Stanton doesn't even project to be a superstar anyway
Haha, oh wow.

22 year old coming off a season where he hit 34 HR's, OPS .893 doesn't project to be a superstar? I'd like to know what young guys project as superstars IYO
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